Please don't listen to these people.. Configure the game you feel it should bein my personal opinion the game should have been balanced back to the way it was on the beta but lower down the imp mechs damage.. Everything else was great.. Now that rose is finally back to where she should be everyone has turned to pirates and kernel corn because they wee buffed.. I love this game and I really hope the dev team figures out away to balance everything.. Without listening to these people on the forums.. Can an you really believe people are upset and say rose is worthless now.. This is why you shouldn't listen to them.. Rose is still a great character.. They just got used to spinning around in circles ahooting then all the zombies die..pirates barrel did need alittle buff.. But now all I see is pirates running around in barrels all over the ppl e while 7 kernel corns shoot butter bombs everywhere please stop buffing classes.. Edit it on post..if something is too powerful lower its damage just a tiny bit.. But please don't buff anything else.. Especially not scientistssince they're crying that sun flowers are better...i did gardens and graveyards with a whole team of scientists and sunflowers vs each other.. The scientists walk across the sunflowers like they're a joke..dont buff scientists.. Don't buff sunflowers.. Just leave it alone. Please. This coming from a sunflower lover.sunflower and soldier are my main characters..

I've seen the zombies say plants are better.. I've seen plants say zombies are better.. I've been on both sides and won.. I've been on both sides and lost.. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.. That doesn't make either side any better than the other..there's always two sides to every story.. Red vs blue.. Some claim reds better some claim blue is better.. Some people just have really bad games.. Just look at call of duty.. Nobody says spec ops team is better.. Cause it's not the whole team.. It's the gun.. We need to pin point the gun and take care of it.. As in find that specific character variant and deal with it as needed.. That doesn't mean make a whole new update to fix one thing.. Then change every other class as well...yes this might be kinda running off in a weird direction and coming back..what at I mean is.. Don't fix rose then buff other classes.. Should have fixed rose and left every other class alone.. Take a step back and see how it plays out..or you could do like every other major game and have a PTR for players to test out the update before you publicly release it

Stop listening to these rose depending people.. Plants aren't weak.. Zombies aren't OP.. Plants are fine everyone just got used to steam rolling over zombies because they had rose.. Obviously everyone playa both sides.. The rose noobs just suck as plants now because they got used to her being the go-to-character...oh no we are losing! Time to switch to rose...Do not listen to these kids

@Zaheen1337 wrote:Kids? Obvious troll is obvious, your post is nothing but spam.Mature players who use these boards probably agree with the Rose Nerf which invalidates your comments. I never used that class because I knew it was broken.That doesn't mean to say the game is perfectly balanced now. It's one sided the other way now, and if you can't see that then you need to open your eyes.I'm a troll because I don't want the devs to listen to idiots like you?people like you sit and complain buff this buff that.. They should just start account banning people like you on the forumsthe game is good how it is..you keep dying and losing because you're badstop crying for buffs and nerfs to the classes you play or can't actually beat because of you being bad at the gamejust because you're awful doesn't mean something isn't balancedme and my bf enjoy this game but people like you are trying to to ruin it by sitting on the forums crying about how bad you're at fighting specific variants

@Evilwendie wrote:I've seen the zombies say plants are better.. I've seen plants say zombies are better.. I've been on both sides and won.. I've been on both sides and lost.. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.. That doesn't make either side any better than the other..there's always two sides to every story.. Red vs blue.. Some claim reds better some claim blue is better.. Some people just have really bad games.. Just look at call of duty.. Nobody says spec ops team is better.. Cause it's not the whole team.. It's the gun.. We need to pin point the gun and take care of it.. As in find that specific character variant and deal with it as needed.. That doesn't mean make a whole new update to fix one thing.. Then change every other class as well...yes this might be kinda running off in a weird direction and coming back..what at I mean is.. Don't fix rose then buff other classes.. Should have fixed rose and left every other class alone.. Take a step back and see how it plays out..or you could do like every other major game and have a PTR for players to test out the update before you publicly release itAgree, that was the mistake with this update.Instead of fixing the problem (rose) they went out and changed a lot of other things that were not necessary.I don't understand why they changed hitboxes f.ex.!!??Why did they buff the pirat??? He was fine!!Imp: maybe he needed some more hp, 15 f.ex. but not 25!!!The problem was op rose, but with fixing her, the imp automatically becam a better character cause he was the primary victim of the op rose...Now rose can't counter him anymore plus he got a buff and the result is an OP imp.Please popcap, reset the balance changes (also because since then there are way mor technical issues with the game, freezes, bugs, disconnects, graphic errors and my ps4 is VENTILATING LIKE HELL!!!) bring everything back as it was and just reduce rosie damage significantly, give the imp 10 or15hp more and the game will be fine.This all happened because of the whiners, and a game that was absolutely well balanced except for the rose, has been ruined!!!!

Kids? Obvious troll is obvious, your post is nothing but spam.Mature players who use these boards probably agree with the Rose Nerf which invalidates your comments. I never used that class because I knew it was broken.That doesn't mean to say the game is perfectly balanced now. It's one sided the other way now, and if you can't see that then you need to open your eyes.

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Boolerex
9 years ago
It hard to say right now. The balance change were really good for the most part. Sure the whole rose * up came because people asking to buff her and such. But I guess it was because barely anyone also said otherwise. Now there the current "zombie are superior to plant" subject that come out recently. Alots of peoples are claiming that plant are just weak in general,but in my opinions,it seem like that imp and scientist in general seem to be a tad too strong right now (also electro brainz OP arc damage.)

The thing is that when it come to variant and alternative abilities right now. There some of them that clearly need a buff (why would you take potato nugget mine instead of potato mine, same for super pea jump). But there also a decent amount of them that are just underrated and would just come out as OP if they get a buff (law pea come to mind)

Also:

Especially not scientists

since they're crying that sun flowers are better...

I have seem literally everyone claiming the another way around lol.

Also yeah rose is really underrated after the nerf. She still do her job as a disabler support well but don't rekt everything. Only exception would be maybe frost rose which seem really bad now.
Anonymous
9 years ago
I've seen the zombies say plants are better.. I've seen plants say zombies are better.. I've been on both sides and won.. I've been on both sides and lost.. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.. That doesn't make either side any better than the other..there's always two sides to every story.. Red vs blue.. Some claim reds better some claim blue is better.. Some people just have really bad games.. Just look at call of duty.. Nobody says spec ops team is better.. Cause it's not the whole team.. It's the gun.. We need to pin point the gun and take care of it.. As in find that specific character variant and deal with it as needed.. That doesn't mean make a whole new update to fix one thing.. Then change every other class as well...
yes this might be kinda running off in a weird direction and coming back..
what at I mean is.. Don't fix rose then buff other classes.. Should have fixed rose and left every other class alone.. Take a step back and see how it plays out..
or you could do like every other major game and have a PTR for players to test out the update before you publicly release it
Anonymous
9 years ago
@Evilwendie wrote:
I've seen the zombies say plants are better.. I've seen plants say zombies are better.. I've been on both sides and won.. I've been on both sides and lost.. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.. That doesn't make either side any better than the other..there's always two sides to every story.. Red vs blue.. Some claim reds better some claim blue is better.. Some people just have really bad games.. Just look at call of duty.. Nobody says spec ops team is better.. Cause it's not the whole team.. It's the gun.. We need to pin point the gun and take care of it.. As in find that specific character variant and deal with it as needed.. That doesn't mean make a whole new update to fix one thing.. Then change every other class as well...
yes this might be kinda running off in a weird direction and coming back..
what at I mean is.. Don't fix rose then buff other classes.. Should have fixed rose and left every other class alone.. Take a step back and see how it plays out..
or you could do like every other major game and have a PTR for players to test out the update before you publicly release it
Agree, that was the mistake with this update.
Instead of fixing the problem (rose) they went out and changed a lot of other things that were not necessary.
I don't understand why they changed hitboxes f.ex.!!??
Why did they buff the pirat??? He was fine!!
Imp: maybe he needed some more hp, 15 f.ex. but not 25!!!
The problem was op rose, but with fixing her, the imp automatically becam a better character cause he was the primary victim of the op rose...
Now rose can't counter him anymore plus he got a buff and the result is an OP imp.
Please popcap, reset the balance changes (also because since then there are way mor technical issues with the game, freezes, bugs, disconnects, graphic errors and my ps4 is VENTILATING LIKE HELL!!!)
bring everything back as it was and just reduce rosie damage significantly, give the imp 10 or15hp more and the game will be fine.
This all happened because of the whiners, and a game that was absolutely well balanced except for the rose, has been ruined!!!!
Anonymous
9 years ago
Stop listening to these rose depending people.. Plants aren't weak.. Zombies aren't OP.. Plants are fine
everyone just got used to steam rolling over zombies because they had rose..
Obviously everyone playa both sides.. The rose noobs just suck as plants now because they got used to her being the go-to-character...
oh no we are losing! Time to switch to rose...
Do not listen to these kids
Zaheen1337
9 years ago
Kids? Obvious troll is obvious, your post is nothing but spam.
Mature players who use these boards probably agree with the Rose Nerf which invalidates your comments. I never used that class because I knew it was broken.
That doesn't mean to say the game is perfectly balanced now. It's one sided the other way now, and if you can't see that then you need to open your eyes.
Rhendyr
9 years ago
It's not one sided either way. Like wendie, it goes back and forth. I personally have a much higher win ratio than I do loss, but the team I'm on, regardless of if it's Plants or Zombies (I play both now, before Rose was nerfed I almost never played Plants) the side I'm on tends to win.

I've gone on streaks of winning 90+% of my games as both Plants and Zombies. I've never found either side, Plants, or Zombies particularly hard to beat, on average. I do find people who are hard to beat. I've seen guys like Slithus, Infinite_Eternal, Catalyst-of-Hope and such who if they are on the other side of the field, rather it be Zombie or Plant, I know they are going to be hard to beat, and I try to set out to shut them down in hops of my side winning by doing that, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

The point is, I wont go and say, "The Sunflower is too weak! Buff him!" when I just seen a Sunflower get 25 kills, 700 healing, and 8 revives in a Team Vanquish game while leading their side to a one sided victory. I've seen really bad Plant players, and really good ones, and I've seen fairly consistent w/l ratios from both sides, and have to believe that leans more towards balanced, rather than taking the groups who always lose and then say "Whelp, it must be balance issues why those individuals keep losing!"
Anonymous
9 years ago
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Kids? Obvious troll is obvious, your post is nothing but spam.
Mature players who use these boards probably agree with the Rose Nerf which invalidates your comments. I never used that class because I knew it was broken.
That doesn't mean to say the game is perfectly balanced now. It's one sided the other way now, and if you can't see that then you need to open your eyes.
I'm a troll because I don't want the devs to listen to idiots like you?
people like you sit and complain buff this buff that.. They should just start account banning people like you on the forums
the game is good how it is..
you keep dying and losing because you're bad
stop crying for buffs and nerfs to the classes you play or can't actually beat because of you being bad at the game
just because you're awful doesn't mean something isn't balanced
me and my bf enjoy this game but people like you are trying to to ruin it by sitting on the forums crying about how bad you're at fighting specific variants
Anonymous
9 years ago
Ok rose pendant. You didn't use rose to be op and you aren't sitting here crying about her? Then prove it
Zaheen1337
9 years ago
Your Rose has been promoted.
Show me your stats with the Rose, that's one picture.
Zaheen1337
9 years ago
I kill more than I die, and I win more than I lose. What difference does that make to class unbalance?
You're a troll because this thread proves you're a troll, you don't want the devs to listen to me but you think they're going to listen to you?! I want them to listen to you calling everyone an idiot for having an opinion, and I want them to listen to me calling YOU an idiot, for calling everyone else an idiot.
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By the way, I'm going to need to open up my laptop, submit my screen capture to Facebook/Twitter, then submit it here from my laptop just to prove to some idiot that I didn't use Rose?
Why not make friends with someone who owns a PS4 and have them come look at my backyard lobby. I think one got levelled doing a Goat trophy...
Played a a bit of Druid Rose post patch, the few kills I have were me messing around in the backyard.