Hey everyone, We've heard there's some confusion about the upcoming TTK changes and what happened with today's update. We're hoping to clarify with this thread! We did have Character Balance changes added in today's patch. These changes were deployed to balance the current meta. Once we made these changes, it was determined that we'd go after a big ambitious TTK balance patch in early December. We had intended to roll out TTK today but it needed a little more time in the oven. The TTK changes were meant to layer on or replace the balance changes rolled out today. We weren't planning to share the full TTK Changelist just yet... but considering some of the confusion we wanted to share all the juicy details ASAP. We'll always strive for transparency. That said... Here are today's balance updates and what to expect in the Early December (TTK) update. [Live Now] November 27 Update (Pre-TTK) Cactus Garlic Drone Garlic Strike Direct damage increased 10->15 Explosive damage decreased 20->15 Citron Upgrade Pulp Powered Reduce additional time earned for earning a vanquish from 2.7->2.0 Super Brainz Super Ultra Ball Increase direct damage 75->100 Decrease splash damage 75->50 Increase ability refresh time 18->20 Decrease blast radius 5.0->3.0 Increase shockwave radius 7.5->8.5 Electric Slide Boogie Bolt Increase damage 8.7->18 Decrease rate of fire 235->140 Decrease ammo capacity 24->14 Captain Deadbeard Spyglass Shot Remove weapon deploy time for sniper weapon Barrel Blast Barrel health decreased from 150->85 Parrot Drone Eggsplosion Decrease initial blast damage 75->65 Decrease blast radius of cluster eggs 3.2->2.25 Add initial cooldown when parrot is summoned Space Cadet & Space Station Crater Maker Decrease duration of 7.35->4 Decrease direct damage 20->5 Increase splash damage from 5->10 Increase shockwave damage from 1->5 Decrease cooldown 35->20 Asteroid Shield Decrease shield health from 390->300 Upgrade Assimilation Increase restoration time from 0.35->2.0 per vanquish Scientist Goo Blaster Decrease damage while near pellets are alive reduced 2.84->2.0 Decrease rate of fire 100->90 Decrease projectile speed post drag 135->100 Decrease life/distance of near pellets 26->12m Warp Increase ability refresh time 8->9 Upgrade Precision Increase equip cost 3->4 Upgrade CPR Decrease equip cost 4->3 Engineer Heavy Helper Decrease firing range 45m->40m [Coming Soon] Early December TTK Changelist Peashooter Pea Cannon Direct damage increased 12.5->20.0 Splash damage increased 12->14 Reduce camera recoil Chomper Chomp Damage increased 28.8->40.55 Slobber Shot Damage increased 22.6->34 Projectile speed post drag period reduce 400->250 Upgrade Halitosis Splash damage increased 5.45->9 Kernel Corn Cob Busters Damage increased 3.86->5.2 Reduce projectile spread when moving Ammo capacity increased 46->52 Reduce camera recoil Night Cap Spore Strike Damage increased 12.24->17 Ammo capacity increased 16->20 Snapdragon Flame Blower Damage increased 4.5->6.5 Reduce overheat penalty 1.25->0.75 Flare Ball Direct damage increased 11.6->21 Decrease heat gain rate Decrease overheat penalty 1.25->0.75 Cactus Spike Shot Increase ammo capacity 32->40 1st charge Ammo cost increase 1->2 2nd charge Ammo cost increase 2->4 3rd charge Ammo cost increase 3->7 Full charge Ammo cost increase 4->8 Spike Strike Damage increased 4.5->6.5 Rate of fire increased 450->480 Increase ammo capacity 32->40 Reduce camera recoil Garlic Drone Needle Shot Damage decreased 10.0->8.8 Decrease overheat penalty 3.0->1.0 Increase projectile speed 250->350 Citron Juice Cannon Increase damage per projectile 2.55->2.6 Decrease muzzle damage 2.55->2.2 Decrease projectile spread per shot Peel Shield Increase shield regen delay 2.0->3.5 Increase shield regen delay from destroyed 2.0->5.0 E.M. Peach Decrease stun duration 2.25->1.4 Upgrade Peached Decrease stun duration 4.5->2.9 Acorn & Oak Shell Shot Increase damage 4.8->6.6 Increase projectile speed post drag period 250->350 Decrease projectile spread when jumping Decrease recoil when moving Decrease recoil when aiming Increased ammo 40->45 Treetop Turret Damage increased 3.25->4.6 Increase heat dissipate rate 0.4->0.66 Decrease overheat penalty 2.0->0.75 Sap Trap Reduce ability refresh time 15->9 Increase splash damage 60 ->65 Wood Grief Increase direct damage 16.8->24 Increase splash damage 12->16 Sunflower Sun Pulse Increase damage 5.5->8 Reduce ammo capacity 50->40 Decrease projectile drag start distance 25m->20m Decrease projectile drag end distance 45m->40m Decrease projectile final speed post drag 375->300 Decrease projectile spread per shot Decrease camera recoil Decrease camera shake Heal Beam Increase heal rate 18->25 Upgrade Vampire Flower Increase heal rate 6->6.25 Upgrade Blossom Increase equip cost 3->5 Increase heal rate 18->25 Upgrade Sunslinger Increase additional heal rate 5->6.25 Upgrade Pocket Protection Increase self heal rate 6->10 Rose Magic Thistles Increase damage 7.08->12 Decrease rate of fire 240->200 Decrease ammo capacity 32->20 Decrease target acquire angle 2.5->2.0 Adjust camera recoil Foot Soldier Z-1 Assault Blaster Increase damage 4.4->6.1 Increase ammo capacity 40->45 Decrease camera recoil Decrease projectile spread when jumping Imp Imp Blasters Increase damage 3.5->4.95 Increase ammo capacity 50->56 Decrease projectile final speed post drag 350->300 Decrease camera recoil Decrease camera shake Impkata Increase damage 1->1.2 Decrease time until damage increase 3.0->1.75 Robo Laser Decrease damage 6->5 Decrease overheat penalty 2.0->1.0 Decrease camera shake Upgrade Ripcord Decrease time until damage increases 2.25->1.5 Super Brainz Heroic Fists 3rd punch Increase damage 40->42 Ultra Flying Fist 1st charge Decrease damage 25->22.9 2nd charge Increase damage 40.8->50 Full Charge Increase damage 70->71.4 Alpha Better Shield Increase shield health 100->120 80s Action Hero Bow Blaster 1st charge Increase center bolt damage 7->17 Increase small bolt damage 1.1->1.5 2nd charge Decrease center bolt damage 22.8->32 Decrease small bolt damage 3.8->4.1 Full charge Increase direct damage 45->50 Increase splash damage 12->15 Electric Slide Boogie Bolt Decrease damage 18->16.8 Increase rate of fire 140->190 Increase ammo capacity 14->18 Decrease camara recoil Decrease projectile spread per shot Decrease min time to stun 2.0->1.5 Upgrade Jazz Hands Decrease min time to stun 1.5->1.0 Outta Fight! Can not cancel ability until 1 second has elapsed Captain Deadbeard Spyglass Shot Increase ammo capacity 12->20 Scurvy Scattershot Increase ammo capacity 12->20 Increase damage per projectile 1.61->1.9 Barrel Blast Barrel health increased from 85->100 Parrot Drone Parrot Pulse Increase damage 7->8.2 Decrease overheat penalty 3.0->1.0 Increase initial speed 150->350 Added bullet speed fall off Eggsplosion Decrease initial blast damage 65->50 All-Star Football Cannon Increase damage 6.4->8 Decrease overheat penalty time 2.0->1.0 Decrease camera shake Decrease projectile spread when aiming Decrease projectile drag start distance 50m->25m Decrease projectile drag end distance 70m->45m Decrease projectile final speed post drag 500->350 Space Cadet & Space Station Cosmo Shot Increase damage 4.25->6.9 Big Bang Burst Increase damage 5.8->10.5 Scientist Goo Blaster Increase ammo capacity 8->10 Healing Hose Increase heal rate 11->20 Upgrade CPR Increase additional heal rate 5->6.25 Upgrade Reflexive Increase self heal rate 6->10 Upgrade Power Wash Increase additional heal rate 4->6.25 Engineer Concrete Launcher Increase direct damage 5.2->12.8 Increase splash damage 22->25 Decrease splash damage radius 3.5->2.5 Decrease shockwave radius 3.75->3.2 Increase ammo capacity 8->10 Bullhorn Swarm Decrease initial stun time 0.5->0.35 Decrease additional stun time 0.35->0.175

Thank you for taking the time to update us.Popcap is trying to communicate to the HQ crowd and we see the effort and appreciate it.🙏Now let’s get that TTK addressed before people implode! 😬

@Shaun_Popcap These updates as a whole make me happy! Can't wait til Dec for everything to come together.

Hoooooo weeeee! This sounds sweet! Definitely steps in the right direction and glad to see post directed to the forum. As far as reddit goes they can just wine all they want. On a personal note, Electric Slide has always been one of my mains since alpha. Sounds crazy, right? Even with weak primary out put she was fun to play. And when my updates done in 42 hours, I will show the world my wrath.

The december patch looks quite nice!

@paszka2804 wrote:Looks good but nerf scientists warp pleaseExactly... cool down change of 1 second is an absolute joke! Need a longer cool down and/or only 2 warps.

Shaun_Popcap

EA Staff (Retired)

6 years ago

Character Balancing & TTK Update

Hey everyone,

We've heard there's some confusion about the upcoming TTK changes and what happened with today's update. We're hoping to clarify with this thread!

We did have Character Balance changes added in today's patch. These changes were deployed to balance the current meta.

Once we made these changes, it was determined that we'd go after a big ambitious TTK balance patch in early December. We had intended to roll out TTK today but it needed a little more time in the oven. The TTK changes were meant to layer on or replace the balance changes rolled out today.

We weren't planning to share the full TTK Changelist just yet... but considering some of the confusion we wanted to share all the juicy details ASAP. We'll always strive for transparency.

That said... Here are today's balance updates and what to expect in the Early December (TTK) update.

[Live Now] November 27 Update (Pre-TTK)

Cactus

Garlic Drone

Garlic Strike
- Direct damage increased 10->15
- Explosive damage decreased 20->15

Citron

Upgrade Pulp Powered

Reduce additional time earned for earning a vanquish from 2.7->2.0

Super Brainz

Super Ultra Ball

Increase direct damage 75->100
Decrease splash damage 75->50
Increase ability refresh time 18->20
Decrease blast radius 5.0->3.0
Increase shockwave radius 7.5->8.5

Electric Slide

Boogie Bolt

Increase damage 8.7->18
Decrease rate of fire 235->140
Decrease ammo capacity 24->14

Captain Deadbeard

Spyglass Shot

Remove weapon deploy time for sniper weapon

Barrel Blast

Barrel health decreased from 150->85

Parrot Drone

Eggsplosion

Decrease initial blast damage 75->65
Decrease blast radius of cluster eggs 3.2->2.25
Add initial cooldown when parrot is summoned

Space Cadet & Space Station

Crater Maker

Decrease duration of 7.35->4
Decrease direct damage 20->5
Increase splash damage from 5->10
Increase shockwave damage from 1->5
Decrease cooldown 35->20

Asteroid Shield

Decrease shield health from 390->300

Upgrade Assimilation

Increase restoration time from 0.35->2.0 per vanquish

Scientist

Goo Blaster

Decrease damage while near pellets are alive reduced 2.84->2.0
Decrease rate of fire 100->90
Decrease projectile speed post drag 135->100
Decrease life/distance of near pellets 26->12m

Warp

Increase ability refresh time 8->9

Upgrade Precision

Increase equip cost 3->4

Upgrade CPR

Decrease equip cost 4->3

Engineer

Heavy Helper

Decrease firing range 45m->40m

[Coming Soon] Early December TTK Changelist

Peashooter

Pea Cannon

Direct damage increased 12.5->20.0
Splash damage increased 12->14
Reduce camera recoil

Chomper

Chomp

Damage increased 28.8->40.55

Slobber Shot

Damage increased 22.6->34
Projectile speed post drag period reduce 400->250

Upgrade Halitosis

Splash damage increased 5.45->9

Kernel Corn

Cob Busters

Damage increased 3.86->5.2
Reduce projectile spread when moving
Ammo capacity increased 46->52
Reduce camera recoil

Night Cap

Spore Strike

Damage increased 12.24->17
Ammo capacity increased 16->20

Snapdragon

Flame Blower

Damage increased 4.5->6.5
Reduce overheat penalty 1.25->0.75

Flare Ball

Direct damage increased 11.6->21
Decrease heat gain rate
Decrease overheat penalty 1.25->0.75

Cactus

Spike Shot

Increase ammo capacity 32->40
1st charge

Ammo cost increase 1->2

2nd charge

Ammo cost increase 2->4

3rd charge

Ammo cost increase 3->7

Full charge

Ammo cost increase 4->8

Spike Strike

Damage increased 4.5->6.5
Rate of fire increased 450->480
Increase ammo capacity 32->40
Reduce camera recoil

Garlic Drone

Needle Shot
- Damage decreased 10.0->8.8
- Decrease overheat penalty 3.0->1.0
- Increase projectile speed 250->350

Citron

Juice Cannon

Increase damage per projectile 2.55->2.6
Decrease muzzle damage 2.55->2.2
Decrease projectile spread per shot

Peel Shield

Increase shield regen delay 2.0->3.5
Increase shield regen delay from destroyed 2.0->5.0

E.M. Peach

Decrease stun duration 2.25->1.4

Upgrade Peached

Decrease stun duration 4.5->2.9

Acorn & Oak

Shell Shot

Increase damage 4.8->6.6
Increase projectile speed post drag period 250->350
Decrease projectile spread when jumping
Decrease recoil when moving
Decrease recoil when aiming
Increased ammo 40->45

Treetop Turret

Damage increased 3.25->4.6
Increase heat dissipate rate 0.4->0.66
Decrease overheat penalty 2.0->0.75

Sap Trap

Reduce ability refresh time 15->9
Increase splash damage 60 ->65

Wood Grief

Increase direct damage 16.8->24
Increase splash damage 12->16

Sunflower

Sun Pulse

Increase damage 5.5->8
Reduce ammo capacity 50->40
Decrease projectile drag start distance 25m->20m
Decrease projectile drag end distance 45m->40m
Decrease projectile final speed post drag 375->300
Decrease projectile spread per shot
Decrease camera recoil
Decrease camera shake

Heal Beam

Increase heal rate 18->25

Upgrade Vampire Flower

Increase heal rate 6->6.25

Upgrade Blossom

Increase equip cost 3->5
Increase heal rate 18->25

Upgrade Sunslinger

Increase additional heal rate 5->6.25

Upgrade Pocket Protection

Increase self heal rate 6->10

Rose

Magic Thistles

Increase damage 7.08->12
Decrease rate of fire 240->200
Decrease ammo capacity 32->20
Decrease target acquire angle 2.5->2.0
Adjust camera recoil

Foot Soldier

Z-1 Assault Blaster

Increase damage 4.4->6.1
Increase ammo capacity 40->45
Decrease camera recoil
Decrease projectile spread when jumping

Imp

Imp Blasters

Increase damage 3.5->4.95
Increase ammo capacity 50->56
Decrease projectile final speed post drag 350->300
Decrease camera recoil
Decrease camera shake

Impkata

Increase damage 1->1.2
Decrease time until damage increase 3.0->1.75

Robo Laser

Decrease damage 6->5
Decrease overheat penalty 2.0->1.0
Decrease camera shake

Upgrade Ripcord

Decrease time until damage increases 2.25->1.5

Super Brainz

Heroic Fists

3rd punch

Increase damage 40->42

Ultra Flying Fist

1st charge

Decrease damage 25->22.9

2nd charge

Increase damage 40.8->50

Full Charge

Increase damage 70->71.4

Alpha Better Shield

Increase shield health 100->120

80s Action Hero

Bow Blaster

1st charge

Increase center bolt damage 7->17
Increase small bolt damage 1.1->1.5

2nd charge

Decrease center bolt damage 22.8->32
Decrease small bolt damage 3.8->4.1

Full charge

Increase direct damage 45->50
Increase splash damage 12->15

Electric Slide

Boogie Bolt

Decrease damage 18->16.8
Increase rate of fire 140->190
Increase ammo capacity 14->18
Decrease camara recoil
Decrease projectile spread per shot
Decrease min time to stun 2.0->1.5

Upgrade Jazz Hands

Decrease min time to stun 1.5->1.0

Outta Fight!

Can not cancel ability until 1 second has elapsed

Captain Deadbeard

Spyglass Shot

Increase ammo capacity 12->20

Scurvy Scattershot

Increase ammo capacity 12->20
Increase damage per projectile 1.61->1.9

Barrel Blast

Barrel health increased from 85->100

Parrot Drone

Parrot Pulse

Increase damage 7->8.2
Decrease overheat penalty 3.0->1.0
Increase initial speed 150->350
Added bullet speed fall off

Eggsplosion

Decrease initial blast damage 65->50

All-Star

Football Cannon

Increase damage 6.4->8
Decrease overheat penalty time 2.0->1.0
Decrease camera shake
Decrease projectile spread when aiming
Decrease projectile drag start distance 50m->25m
Decrease projectile drag end distance 70m->45m
Decrease projectile final speed post drag 500->350

Space Cadet & Space Station

Cosmo Shot

Increase damage 4.25->6.9

Big Bang Burst

Increase damage 5.8->10.5

Scientist

Goo Blaster

Increase ammo capacity 8->10

Healing Hose

Increase heal rate 11->20

Upgrade CPR

Increase additional heal rate 5->6.25

Upgrade Reflexive

Increase self heal rate 6->10

Upgrade Power Wash

Increase additional heal rate 4->6.25

Engineer

Concrete Launcher

Increase direct damage 5.2->12.8
Increase splash damage 22->25
Decrease splash damage radius 3.5->2.5
Decrease shockwave radius 3.75->3.2
Increase ammo capacity 8->10

Bullhorn Swarm

Decrease initial stun time 0.5->0.35
Decrease additional stun time 0.35->0.175

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