Chemist - Why The Hate? (Possible Nerf)
As a frequent scientist player, I've played chemist for several hours, and I've notice in EVERY stream there is at least 2 Kids like this:
"NERF CHEMIST/ELECTRO BRAINZ/ZOOLOGIST"
Or....
#KILLC...
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@cmh05171Let's not cute Chemist damage.
Why always a nerf is a damage nerf?
Just a little nerf to cooldown will make them less impactful as assassin.
And i really agree with archeologist buff
@xxSe4l-MLG420xxDo you play both Pc and Ps4?
What do you think are the most differences? I played a couple of time at a friend house and more or less i have an opinion.
@xXFrozenChromeXx
I don't play this game all to often on PC, but there are some differences, but it could change from your experience since I didn't play on PC for 25 days. The most important one is that your average PC player will put up more of a fight than a console player, regardeless on what team they ate on. That's something I noticed troughout many shooters on PC, because you run into a ton of kids an really casual players on PS4, which are generally the type of players to be happy when they get some kills. (No offense to them, everybody is allowed to play video games.) The team composition dorsn't change too much for team Zombies, you run into more Footsoldiers and Deadbeards, but the Imp, Scientists and Super Brainz are dominant. The Plant team is a different story. On PS4, the usual team composition is at least 3, often 6+ Corns period, with most of them being BBQ Corn. There are some Toxic Peas and other classes here and there, but usually, I'm the only Citron and there are no Roses. On PC, the Citron is more dominant and you see a much brighter variety of classes, which makes the game easier abd it feels smoother. The last major difference is that I can usually play something different than Turf Takeover on the PS4, while on PC, well, you know that everything else is dead for the most part.
@xxSe4l-MLG420xx
Okay, i think my opinion is correct then:
I remember back in time, after the rosenerf patch matches was ABSOLUTELY bad.
I leaved the game for two weeks, then turned back and... i was really impressed that i was have joy playing the game.
It's impossible that leave the game for two week and eventually turning back could have increased my skills suddenly.
So i realized something else was changed.
More chompers and Citrons players.
In team vanquish is not rare to see a team of full of those.
So i realized the real problem in the patch wasn't the Rose nerf, but more likely the Corn buff. Too Corns ruins the team comp.
This is what i realized, no clue if is true or not, but still an opinion.
And the fact i left the game after some days and when i turned back i ddnt feel a really unbalance game maybe is a thing to consider.Your're not the only one who has picked up on the 95% full corn team comps. I remember a game of great white north where I was attacking as zombies and the entire plants were just corn, that was it nothing else. They lost very fast, probably the fastest game of GWN I have ever played. This is my logic, in almost any team based game that has classes that work as defense,support,tank, and offense there is a need of diversity and proper usage. I have been following people who play Overwatch which is a good example of a team based game. On defense the team cannot win by just going offensive classes, they need at least a healer and defrensive characters along with maybe one offensive character or two to keep the enemies distracted and output some damage. In GW2 you cannot win playing just corn defensively, having one or two corns is good to have but there is a need for some peashooters, cacti, support, and tanks. Survivabilty on defense is key in my opinion and corn can output some firepower but not survivabilty for the most part.
Now I am just talking defensive for plants and not to much for offense since that doesn't really roll well to much anyway in TT. But if I'd have to say one thing is all corn even on offense won't cut it. And with the lack of rose victory is doubtful.
@cmh05171 i see your point, you're correct.
People think Corn is a strong class or others are just weak? This is just what makes me curious.. and why possibly?
One thing that plants lack is maybe some of survival skills.
Sunflowers are immobile free-kills, and cactuses need someone to cover them, besides mines.
Chompers need someone to cover them while digesting, Citrons is clunky and has no damaging spells and need team to fully works.
Maybe what is making people spam Corn is the fact he doesn't have really to rely on his team-mates.
- @FrozenChromelta
You're certainly right about the Corn ruining the Plants to some degree. It's not becaise the Kernel is bad, in fact, you need one or two of them to open up a push, but he can't substain the push all too well because he dies rather quickly from concentrated fire. Another problem is that, as you pointed out, a good Corn needs map awarness, positoning, good use, management and aim of abilities and predicting skills in order to be credit to team. On his own, the default Corn (and most of his variants) is a good and well rounded addition to the plant offense. The problem comes from players playing him like they would play the Footsoldier in GW1. They rush without support into unfacorable areas and engagements, waste their ablilities all too often and DO NOT care about protecting the Sunflowers and Roses. It wouldn't ve bad if there was only one of these guys in every gane, but their are a lot of them, which is just crippling the Plant team.
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