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@DecreeNo9 I'm normally not one to hope for something, as hope often leads to disappointment, but I hope you're right. Part of me wonders why they released BfN with so little fanfare and support, and in such a bad state, when they know that GW and GW2 did very well. Millions of people played these games and just a quick perusal of the many YouTubers that play the games and you'll see how excited people were for GW3, and then we got BfN. Maybe they thought the game would sell itself, maybe there were serious problems with development that we don't know about that led to them launching it in such a state, maybe something else happened.
Then watch the various YouTubers' coverage of the game drop off rapidly, and even folks like Zack Scott, who is my default PvZ shooter YouTuber, lost interest as time wore on and currently he has no active PvZ shooter coverage and I found his channel thanks to GW1 (and am in a few of his videos as he plays on PC). Somewhat Awesome Games, whose videos I direct people to for the gnomes and other neat stuff in GW2, covered it early and then nothing. BfN just didn't live up to what we all wanted. There's that excellent video by Krook that interviews the various folks that love PvZ shooters and most don't hate BfN, but it just pales when compared to the GW games.
I know some love BfN and I don't hate it like many do, but it just falls flat in so many ways. We need a GW3, or whatever it's called, and get that spark back where folks like Zack make so many videos; he has over 300 videos of GW, over 400 of GW2, and only a little over 100 for BfN. It has to be handled better than any of our current games though, they've really angered some folks over the lack of support for stuff like achievements and community challenge hats in GW2 since BfN launched, the BfN situation and other issues like hackers. A well handled sequel, especially if it brings back the old maps (modified as needed), adds new ones, works well, is fairly monetized, and is marketed and supported well, can easily be a huge success. I for one am ready to buy such a PvZ shooter, that's for certain, and I know I'm not alone. So come on PopCap/EA, give us some good news and give us a great new GW game!
I don't blame the youtubers for leaving honestly, it's clear they enjoyed gw and clearly had fun with the 2 games but with bfn they're suddenly thrust into a whole new overwatch styled game that they simply don't enjoy playing and theyre not oblidged to make content for it if they don't enjoy it. Heck you can find random small channel videos that have millions of views from gw styled content.
Its worse for all these massive changes especially after gw2 where they proved they could remaster gw1 styled maps so a gw3 that did this would seen like a no brainer but instead we got this mess.
I really don't blame people for leaving as they all joined on for the gw series and not overwatch from wish.
- DecreeNo94 years agoSeasoned Ace
@stukapookaThere are a lot of changes in BFN and gw2. If you look at the zombie camp, gw2 will feel very repress, but BFN doesn't. If you play EA games carefully, their personnel seem to be very poor after 2016. NFS2017 BFV anthem was sold after 2016, with bad reputation and poor quality, I don't know what they have done in the past three years between gw2 and BFN, but it's unreasonable to compare the time and the quality of the game
- 4 years ago@DecreeNo9 That was a thematic style because gw2's narrative was that the zombies had quickly taken over with the help of zmechs. Bfn barely had any story connection to the previous games and the ones it does give are very poor.
Battlefront 2 sold poorly and was ripped to shreds by fans in late 2016.
3 years passed in between but there is alot of evidence that bfn development started in early 2019 as its alpha was very shortly released after walnut hills was released for gw2 and founders quickly followed rather than an official beta. Gw2 was made shorlty after gw1 but was a direct sequel so it didn't have the handicap of trying to rework the entire system from scratch like bfn did.
Time and quality don't always go hand in hand but they are often a deciding factor as it takes time for a game to be created and play tested by its developers. - DecreeNo94 years agoSeasoned Ace@stukapooka At present, many people stay in gw2 instead of BFN. If BFN starts production in 2019, I think BFN should be sold at least in 2020, not in 2019. It is difficult to confirm the fate of GW. At present, we need a game with the same theme as GW, and can make EA notice him. GW3 may start production
- 4 years ago@DecreeNo9 Oh yeah the game at minimum needed another year in development. The worst part about its cancellation is that gw as a series may go down with it despite them being successful.
- 4 years ago
I would like to see gw3.
- 4 years ago
@ejhsegaI think everyones hoping for that at this point as literally no one has any hope for pvz 3 and another bfn would feel like kicking a guy when they're already down.
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