At present, there is no news about the new GW. I don't have a switch. I don't know if BFN is still being updated. I hope the game is still being updated. Will there be GW3 in the future? I don't think so, but it's not completely impossible Everyone knows what EA will do. I feel that there are too many problems in the operation of BFN, and the quality of BFN in the early stage is very poor. I feel that the production time is very short and used to fool the player's works

@DecreeNo9 Gonna be a pessimistic guy here but probably not. Bfn flopped so hard that popcap vancouver practically died overnight while both gw1 and 2 skyrocketed past a year of support with news of a new game coming someday. Pvz 3 has no news about it's reboot and popcap doesn't answer any questions about it.Outside of the sub reddit nobody knew bfn or pvz 3 existed or they did not like it, which goes to say how much the advertising failed at its job, even the switch port was blasted for being an incomplete game being sold as a finished one.Bfn by definition is a franchise killer imo: no marketing of the game leading to poor sales, history of rushed development, rapid change of established gameplay formula for no real reason other than to try and copy more successful franchises yet these mechanics are introduced horribly (fossil fighters frontiers, black ops 4 zombies, and half of the battle royal genre), and trying desperately to piggyback off of new fans while alienating the previous auidience and getting no one.People can like bfn all they want but that's just them liking a game rather than it actually being a good game.I'll still join discussions about a potential gw3 but honestly unless popcap straight up makes it i doubt the franchise is in a good spot.

@stukapooka I can't really disagree with you here. I do like BfN more than most other series veterans, but it's still my least favorite of the 3, and the GW games have always had this niche they've occupied that made them successful, even if not to the level of some of the other multiplayer shooters out there. With ActiBlizz's current situation and seeing how much OW has declined in general, I really wish they would have stuck with the GW formula and just tweaked it a bit, instead of trying to integrate certain potions of that game, along with some others, into the PvZ shooters.They did indeed try to keep us old guard while also trying to attract more 'mainstream' shooter players with BfN, but it obviously didn't go so well for them. In trying to expand their market share, while not advertising the game enough, releasing it too early, and making some decisions that even more supportive players like me are unhappy with, BfN while not a complete disaster, fell far short of the earlier games. The lack of news is disheartening for sure; what is up with PvZ3? are you planning a new shooter, and if so, when? A new comic is coming out soon and we know they haven't abandoned PvZ as an IP as PvZ2 and all 3 current shooters are still playable and by all accounts, doing well, even BfN isn't faring that badly right now, so it would make sense to make a GW3. They have got to do a better job on a new shooter than they did with BfN, and this includes a likely return to GW style over BfN, while implementing some of BfN's better ideas. I for one am ready for a new game if it's a good one, but test it better, balance it better, moving and shooting have got to be better than BfN, market it better and have more dev communication, longer public beta, return to what worked while also innovating where they can, give us good maps, support it better, and give it a better economic model than BfN had. They've proven that GW wasn't a fluke with GW2 doing even better. I don't want BfN to be the end of these games, we need a new one, and soon, but not so soon that it's launched in a bad state.

@Iron_Guard8 The fact that gw1 and 2 were as successful as they were really still drives the question of why fix what isn't broken? Why not instead just keep improving its flaws as no one was really in a burnout from the garden warfare formula?These question keep me wondering what would've happened with gw if overwatch wasn't as popular as it was in 2016?

@stukapooka I'm positive that they wanted to try to grow their market share of the hero shooter space and saw that back then that OW was doing even better than GW2 (sad though that is, I'm still playing GW and GW2 and even before all the Actibliz controversies I uninstalled OW a long time ago), and thought they could get some of that. The loot box system in OW is especially egregious even though it has its ardent defenders I've gotten into arguments with, if you've played it, you know how the system in GW and GW2 is so much better for getting stuff you want. I love how you never get repeats of items (barring consumables) in the packs, so you won't get the same hat over and over while you get a pittance of their in game money for that in OW, which got annoying in a hurry. So they wanted to make the game even bigger by making changes to try to appeal to more people and they ended up alienating large swathes of new folks and veterans, and we are where we are now thanks to that.As to your second point, I believe we'd have gotten GW3 with some of the better ideas of BfN possibly worked into it, but it would have fully been a GW game, if not for OW and possibly the BR games, although thankfully, they never tried that with the games barring soil survivors, which is similar but works with the PvZ theme. I'd like to see that and capture the taco back in GW3!

BfN is not getting any updates, unless the Switch version is getting something we don't have on the other platforms after the release of the complete edition.I wish we had news of a GW3 in the works. I played a bunch of all 3 current shooters this weekend, mostly GW1 and 2, and still fun, still great, but we need a new one with new stuff to do while also satisfying the many who left over BfN or because there are no updates with new stuff for any of the games now. It feels weird not having either new stuff for our current game, or at least rumors of what's to come in the next one, as we've been used to that since at least 2014.I've been posting a ton of ideas and just general stuff lately as I want them to know we're still here, still having fun with the current games, but we're ready for a new one, as long as they don't release it in the state that BfN was in, or even GW2, which did not have a very smooth launch either. The Reddit, while full of memes and tier lists, is still hopping with new posts popping up regularly, so there is an audience for the game. The forums are pretty slow now but not surprising, I'm still hanging around, posting stuff and trying to stay positive about the game and community and that's hard for a natural pessimist like me, but that's how much I love these games, and why I put so much effort into posting so much stuff!So while things don't look great right now, knowing that GW and GW2 did very well, and still are, PC supposedly has the smallest playerbase but over the weekend I was able to get full lobbies even on GW1, if only on G&G mode, means that they have to at least be considering a new PvZ shooter. It may not bring all the veterans back, but there's no doubt it could do well. If they handle it right and let them launch it in a good state, we could again have a great, fun, silly shooter to play, and hopefully for a few years of updates and new content to enjoy.

Do we really have a chance to see GW3?

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stukapooka
Legend
4 years ago
@DecreeNo9 That was a thematic style because gw2's narrative was that the zombies had quickly taken over with the help of zmechs. Bfn barely had any story connection to the previous games and the ones it does give are very poor.

Battlefront 2 sold poorly and was ripped to shreds by fans in late 2016.

3 years passed in between but there is alot of evidence that bfn development started in early 2019 as its alpha was very shortly released after walnut hills was released for gw2 and founders quickly followed rather than an official beta. Gw2 was made shorlty after gw1 but was a direct sequel so it didn't have the handicap of trying to rework the entire system from scratch like bfn did.

Time and quality don't always go hand in hand but they are often a deciding factor as it takes time for a game to be created and play tested by its developers.
DecreeNo9
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@stukapooka At present, many people stay in gw2 instead of BFN. If BFN starts production in 2019, I think BFN should be sold at least in 2020, not in 2019. It is difficult to confirm the fate of GW. At present, we need a game with the same theme as GW, and can make EA notice him. GW3 may start production
stukapooka
Legend
4 years ago
@DecreeNo9 Oh yeah the game at minimum needed another year in development. The worst part about its cancellation is that gw as a series may go down with it despite them being successful.
ejhsega
4 years ago
I would like to see gw3.
stukapooka
Legend
4 years ago
@ejhsegaI think everyones hoping for that at this point as literally no one has any hope for pvz 3 and another bfn would feel like kicking a guy when they're already down.
OMM_F1_36
4 years ago
After WW3 happens we will get a GW3 as the Garden Warfare's we built from the idea of WW1 and 2 in a fun way and BFN was there to continue and not have a long pause for the next PvZ shooter.
shurikeninja
4 years ago
@stukapooka Luckily it turned out mostly fine in the end with the TTK/TTV changes, the Founders build was awful and I feel bad for everyone who had to play that, but I'm sure the damage was already done at that point.
stukapooka
Legend
4 years ago
@shurikeninja They did improve since foundeers but like you said the damafe was already done and alot of fans jumped ship and i can't say I blame them.

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