@GhostKing1337 wrote:
@Rhendyr wrote:
GhostKing1337, you're off your rocker. The problem with you isn't Citron, it's YOU. You need to play a class that fits your play-style, and because Citron isn't a vanquish machine, you want to buff him to make him one. He is a TANK/SUPPORT. You saying you don't care about him being a tank, you just want to kill people quickly, means you're clueless about what he was built for, and that you need to start playing something that better fits your play-style and stop trying to buff a class to do more damage when they are good as is.
Basically, it's like if you started playing the Cactus, and are now here lobbying for a hp increase because he just doesn't have enough hps to tank.....
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I want him to be more of a vanquish machine because most of the Zombies are designed to get vanquishes while some of the Plants are not. Also I do not want characters to be dictated by their role like the Cactus and Sunflower are. Oh and BTW I main Zombies I am trying to help the Plants out here I want them to be more of a threat.
What Plant isn't good at getting kills? I have a friend who regularly gets 20+ kills while topping healing with the vamp sunflower in Team Vanquish. I've seen every single plant class do really well when it comes to kills. I've also seen some Citron's who while they don't top the kill boards, they are the reason their team wins because they are great at playing their role and mess teams up for their own teammates to capitalize on.
Don't go trying to turn a Citron into a Vanquish machine. While we're at it, don't give the Cacti 200 hps, don't give Rose her homing thistles back, don't give the sunflower 200% movement speed and don't give the Peashooter 200 hps either. Play to a classes STRENGTH'S, trying to play an AoE tank as a vanquish machine, then not having it work out that way is the players fault, NOT the fault of the class.
Granted there is no toxic Citron variant yet, but going on the idea Citron is a tank and has an anti climatic primary weapon, any chance they can add an alternate ability to the peel shield?
So instead of having a shield, it gives Citron an pulse aura that does damage much like toxic Chomper. This way he can roll up, roll out, pulse in the center of a group of zombies and fire his static gun (cause that's what it feels like when it's not charged).
Also, depending on the level of charge for his charged shot...the projectile becoming larger would be nice. This would allow for less misses which happens often. I can snipe just fine w/Cactus and DB, but for some reason Electro Citron I miss more charged shots than I'd like.
tl,dr
- Citron alt ability for peel shield, an AOE pulse attack w/a duration. (like Toxic auras)
- Charged shot fire a larger electro ball depending on charge level (making it easier to hit targets with)
I would suggest any AoE "poison" aura type ability not be able to be activated or is canceled as soon as Citron enters ball form. Otherwise, you'd see every team with 5+ Citron's all just rolling around in ball form the entire match.
I still don't feel that Electro Citron needs a buff. I feel Electro Brains needs a nerf to his ranged electric shock from his ring long before Electro Citron needs a single target buff, and if they were to buff his single target dmg, by even a couple dmg per hit, then I think they should just remove the charge component entirely, because landing a full charge, even now, he doesn't have to land a lot of regular attacks unless it's Brainz or a Mech that he is targeting. If you add single target dmg, and then say he lands his charged shot, he could basically 1-3 shot almost everything in the game.
@Rhendyr wrote:I would suggest any AoE "poison" aura type ability not be able to be activated or is canceled as soon as Citron enters ball form. Otherwise, you'd see every team with 5+ Citron's all just rolling around in ball form the entire match.
I still don't feel that Electro Citron needs a buff. I feel Electro Brains needs a nerf to his ranged electric shock from his ring long before Electro Citron needs a single target buff, and if they were to buff his single target dmg, by even a couple dmg per hit, then I think they should just remove the charge component entirely, because landing a full charge, even now, he doesn't have to land a lot of regular attacks unless it's Brainz or a Mech that he is targeting. If you add single target dmg, and then say he lands his charged shot, he could basically 1-3 shot almost everything in the game.
I assumed alt ability to Peel Shield would not be available/active in ball form...just like peel shield isn't (shouldn't be available) in ball form.
Playing Electro Citron I feel like a damage sponge more than anything. I can roll into combat, ppl see the largest target on the map and just focus fire me while everyone else near by does their own thing. I understand the peel shield and being tanky, but there's no boasts or points for soaking damage...and the damage threshold to get an assist isn't always easy when you fire electro's bolts. As much as I like Electro Citron, I don't want to contribute to my team by just eating damage and occasionally getting a kill w/the charged up ball attack or previously able to shoot down imps when they had 50 hps.
Maybe he doesn't need a buff, maybe he just needs a different attack other than a charged shot.
