Why does it depend which Hero your playing to find an appropriate match? I can be playing as Wallnut finding match after match, then as soon as I play as Solarflare it finds it difficult to match. I'm still the same level. But it wants to find me a match a based on what? As I be playing Wallnut and find a match.. but what? Solarflare it find me a match? I really do find this game fishy.. as I find too often, the cards I'm playing are matched against someone who happens to get the right cards at the right time.. too much luck. Bit like the card draw, why is it my cards do not draw in the right sequence. They often give me the wrong cards at the wrong time, as no environment, or all environment, and no high draw.. but all low draw. If you need photo's to prove my point I'll do it. But, I'm pretty sure there is heavy manipulation by EA/Popcap on match making or card draw or both. Why do I say this? think about it, if Im not winning I might buy cards - well, they .. lucked out there as Im not spending anything on this game since it keeps crashing on my ipad and Tech HELP is no help at all.

There are a lot of algorithms at play in the background in this game.I don't think very much is truly random.Do any long-time players remember when Cornucopia used to spawn The Great Zucchini 75% of the time.Or back before it was called conjuring, whenever you drew a 'random' card, 75% of the time it was the latest event card.Most of these things have been adjusted over time to be more random (maybe truly random), but I still get matched up with specific heroes based on the deck I'm using.*I would very much welcome a developer correcting anything that is incorrect there.

It's just bad luck my friend, this game is based completely on odds. How likely or unlikely is for you to find a match is based on how many players are online at that moment, but from the opposite side.Let me give you some examples.Let's suppose that there are only 10 people in total playing this game. 3 are playing as Plants (you included) and 7 are playing as Zombies.That's why you can easily find a match. There are more Zombie players waiting for a match than Plant players.The Zombie players, tired that they cannot get a match, try switching sides. There are now 7 Plant players (still you included) and now only 3 Zombie players. Now you are going to have some trouble looking for a match.The fact that a Hero makes any difference on the waiting times is just a coincidence. It's not like the devs are intentionally making you wait on THAT particular champion.The other factor (drawing or not a particular card/answer) is also a matter of luck. Think about it this way. If you created a deck with 36 Environments and just 4 minions, you still have a chance of drawing only minions on your opening hand. You can improve your odds by reducing the amount of cards in your deck. (Like, only have 4 environments instead of 8).You still have a chance to draw those cards consecutively, but the chance is pretty low.

I find the issue of crazy draws more in Random than ranked. I do chalk up many of the ranked matches as just bad luck. I do think there are bots in Ranked to keep match making faster but I have no proof.

I completely understand how he feels though....like when you have all 3 and higher cost cards for the starting four, so you tap on rodeo Gargantuar and he spins and comes right back. That kind of thing happens all the time to me too, and I guarantee you that if the issue is trying to get us to spend money, they would have stopped it happening to me long ago.I absolutely hate the "random factor" because it allows for people who have knowledge of mischief, let's just say, to take advantage of the system and blame it on the randomness. But then it makes you wonder...for real.Why have I had to recycle a dozen bananasaurus to date, and yet to see the great zucchini. Or, how I never got Brainana or mixedup gravedigger pr nurse gargantuar when they were super rare, but then of course, in a "legendary pack" I pull my first Brainana! Holy cow! yeah I was pretty chapped, and then about a month ago, I got 3 yes THREE freakin nurse gargs in a matter of a week and maybe 30 packs. And still have not seen a gravedigger... But can anyone wrap their head around the percentages of something like that? Or how about back to back packs where I pulled teleportation zombie. How about those odds?

Let me give you some examples.Let's suppose that there are only 10 people in total playing this game. 3 are playing as Plants (you included) and 7 are playing as Zombies.That's why you can easily find a match. There are more Zombie players waiting for a match than Plant players.The Zombie players, tired that they cannot get a match, try switching sides. There are now 7 Plant players (still you included) and now only 3 Zombie players. Now you are going to have some trouble looking for a match.The fact that a Hero makes any difference on the waiting times is just a coincidence. It's not like the devs are intentionally making you wait on THAT particular champion. -- BUT, what difference does it make if I play as Wall knight, and get no match - but if I play as Solar Flare (STILL A PLANT) and I get a match. It's not like I'm playing as a zombie instead.I understand that there may be more plants playing.. versus those playing as zombies. BUT, I find if I'm playing as certain Hero, I'm being matched to certain Hero's.. I do not find any of it random. I do understand that some Hero's are more attractive due to their cards, and super powers, as well as ticket boosting. The quests for gems also encourage people to play as certain cards, or as certain side's (plants or zombie)The card draw is just pathetic at times - seriously it can lose you a game - again proving no skill but does have the ability ensure you keep playing for longer to get the reward, also ensuring you keep others players online. Or EA/Popcap hope you will buy a pack of cards. The game can be won on the first few rounds in a match - without the opponent having the chance to fight back.As for, getting a new pack - and the amount of legendary, super rare, rare, etc.. The only set of 4 legendaries I have are Garg feast - funny that, considering bad moon rising is more or less the same thing. You can tell which of the cards your more likely to get when the newer cards are being sold, as your more likely to get the older slightly redundant versions.

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saintlydevilis
8 years ago
No the random nature doesn't keep the game honest. It becomes a game of probability, as in 10 games you lose due to cards being drawn that were in neither deck. But, on the eleventh game your allowed to win as they want you to keep playing, but not win game after game. If you win game after game then, the game is over reaching the UL. Except they are happy to have UL playing in rank to make it harder for those climbing.
I'd be interested to know how many cards UL have, and the percentage of Legendaries, Super Rare's as well as what set's Colossal, Galactic, because my theory is that there are way more in UL with the biggest amount of newest cards.
daalnnii
8 years ago
I know grinning has all cards that have been made available. I have most plants x4, but there are some I've only got two of. I generally have two or three full sets of legendaries in a deck...

That said, that's the nature of the beast.

Keep in mind, matchmaking isn't working like it should. The reason for ranks isn't for a ladder to climb and progression, it's to come up with fair matches. So while now it's definitely pay to win, it should be pay to play at a higher level.

To me random is what keeps it honest. The random nature has screwed me as much as it's given me the perfect card. Both sides do have them, so that unpredictable nature keeps the game interesting. Are some cards broken with certain decks? Absolutely, but the fact the same card these can give you something gamebreaking can also give you a *, is the balance
Anonymous
8 years ago
I have most colossal set now, not all, but enough that the last pack I got just for the heck of it was a spit in my face.
I had decided that I was done with colossal and crafting would be better than trying for a few and getting more fifth and sixths. I crafted an imitater as it was the last superrare set to finish(I have only 3 cursed Gargolith but I don't need a 4th) so anyways, I was getting some galactic packs and accidentally hit the single colossal pack and what did I get? Wanna guess? Of course I got an imitater....imagine that.
If trading was a possibility, I would probably still grab a pack pnce in awhile, but recycling already 2 Tricarrottops and 3 Tanklysauras is kind of maddening, so I am done with them.
Same with the first two sets, I have most but not all, and I don't even have all the rares in premium set....which baffles me.
How can I have only 3 whack a zombies(3 cost solar-destroy a zombie with 3 or less strength) and yet I have recycled a dozen bananasaurus?
There are decks that I play with barely any legendary, but if I am honest, it's a lot harder for me to hold off on the superrares. And I have said many times, when you are getting started, or have been playing for awhile but getting more cards is a slow process, try to craft some of the superrare and I guarantee you will not regret it. Just make sure on which works best in the most decks, your "staples" and stock up. Even if you only get three, so in case you do pull one in packs it isn't just 250 sparks.
904e8d29c3cd2aa
8 years ago
There’s only three plant cards I don’t have. The VAST majority of those I have acquired for free. I have spent maybe $50ish on this game since the start. Given the amount of time I’ve played it I 100% feel that I have gotten that value out of it. It takes time to grind gems but I usually get 1 thousand gem pack a week for free.
Speaking to the OP I think you’re overthinking it. The game’s random. You’re getting unlucky which happens, put the game down and come back later. Matchmaking by hero makes no sense. I’m sure there’s an algorithm to do what they can to match you to like levels but at a certain point if none are available they’ll grab what they can. Is what it is. From the posts I’ve seen of yours, you’re pretty down on this game thinking the devs and higher ranked players are out to screw you. Sorry, I just don’t agree. Also if you have a deck that you are losing 10 in a row with, it’s not the game that’s screwing you. Either you’re playing it wrong or the deck itself sucks.
@GrinningRuiner i think the reason you saw you saw the great zucchini so much at the begining was the lack of water plants. There were like 10 or 11 back the so your chances were pretty good.
The games random. Sometimes I. Your favor sometimes not.
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
I know the game evolves, so I do change my decks to suit. I don't keep a deck that is continuing to lose that would be foolish. I can't get a 1000 gem pack per week, I don't get the free gems from watching adverts, and I do every quest that comes in on time to get the maximum. So,for that reason along your lucky and I'm not. I've done a new deck to prove one of my points. I've a deck full of hard removal, conjuring, carddraw and that has been more successful. It gains cards I do not have in my deck from other suits. But as I said before these cards that I conjure aren't cards normally in my plant suit, so the opponent will not be expecting those. Also I notice, with a new deck I can win say about 10 games then suddenly its as if my opponent has learnt my cards and suddenly that deck is no longer winning, and I don't me just the odd game, but game after game. So it goes from win after win to loss after loss. I mention these things, as I see a pattern, and I don't believe in that many coincidences. If I did, I'd probably believe in unicorns. I will play as Zombie for a while, as that is easier to get the wins I want.
Anonymous
8 years ago
@904e8d29c3cd2aa2 what he was talking about, it still happens, and it was the reason why(I believe at least) clique peas got so out of hand.
Still now when new cards are out like fraidy cat, every time I used that zombie supertrick summoning(put a max 2cost zombie in play) it was the cat. More often than not having citron or rose use their super transmogrification, same cat.
Obviously not every single time, but the majority of the time for sure.
And when you get an event card by tickets, and put it in a deck to play, how many times do you get that same only copy in your starting four? Not all the time, but enough for me to notice.
With clique peas when they first came out, I figure same thing, and that's why in the beginning it seemed like every second game you played, the megagrow hero has 3 clique peas on turn two....WTF and then after a while, it started to settle down, and then now.... I don't know what the actual eff...some people are sure happy, but many of them are the same group that are killing it with fossilhead, and will be crying again

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