@ShavedThronel0 First: Whenever you are zombie and want a fair match if more people are in your team, if you're coherent you can easily swap, i do this most of the time ^^ Wanna have a proof? Go check my backyard you'll see plenty of plant classes to master, and only Imps by far when i play zombie, cause i dislike them.
Second: this is pretty much your salty butthurted opinion. Imps is still the most Hard character in the zombie team. Try to Jump, shoot and zooming at the same time with a Z11 if you think is easy ^^ and try to do this with a gamepad. Also i have no problem at all to aim at those because i know their jump movement pattern because i played the class in first place and i know their flaws, also there are some class you don't even need to aim, like Electro PeaShooter. Something you can't afford to knowledge because you think that play a particular class is like cheating, this is the classic Bronze V attitude 🙂 something i'm used to see even in LOL. A class can give you a slighly more chance to win, but still teamwork is a thing
Third. Wrong. Regular and Druid are the best. Also even if they are bad they have still huge impact as utility tools. They are just extremely hard to play cause HP nerf and homing nerf. And still the homing nerf was indeed correct. When you afford to pick a utility class with two powerful AoE CC to snipe, means THE GAME IS BROKEN, the homing activate on a specific nerf but still you can use the blast radius to take advatage of her shots. The Hp nerfs mean just you have to play more safe. Besides this offcouse Rose is clearly underpowered, and if you see my suggestion thread i asked for some little buffs, not a idiot huge buff like the return of homing or time snare with the same duration.
Oh i ddn't ask your opinion as a Corn player, probably i can play better than you, so don't really care 🙂
Fourth. My favorite character is Citron, Imp is just my favorite in the zombie side. I prefer plants in any way. But to be honest i don't have to justify nothing to a idiot like you. If you watched the live stream they told something good is happening to Citron and consider EVERYONE blamed his clunky animations and his shield is clear like the sun that he will have some UNJUSTIFYED love, because he is already a VERY SOLID character. But you'll see by yourself. Next patch plants will dominate for sure. 100% 🙂
Zombie main will come to the forum and every good plant class will be nerfed like the same will happen to the Zombies next patch if you CONTINUE TO SPAM QQ. That's why i made a thread with Minor changes that will make the game balanced, not just in favor of Plant classes like you are going to make with your constant QQ.
What do you think will happen if plants for a reason will become stronger for a couple of months?
Citron will get nerfed to a poin he will become weaker than before, Rose nerfed again. With their AoE CC down, plants will not anymore afford anymore a balanced game, no matter how they will fix this, and considering Devs are feared to buff things instead of nerfing to hell those, you will forget about joining the game.
But go ahead, my predicition is correct, ask for more buffs and make the game one side for the plants for a couple of months before the next incoming patch that will eventually destroy everyone of them.
Fifth. First, STOP TALKING ABOUT SKILLS. Seriously this game has no skill flow. If you want a very skill full game, go play league of legends or dota, when the easier character takes at least more than 200 hours to learn to play DECENTLY. This is a game meant to HAVE FUN 🙂 If you don't play this game for this reason and just to test your streNght seriously, you have choosen the wrong game 🙂
@Sassbre I ddnt'say imps are underpowered, but just the regular and shrimp are not that op like people claim, and whenever their HP will be cutten again without anything to trade back they will be barely playable. Especially the regular one with that bullet dispersion.
Imps sniping, are you serious? If you stand still in the same place everyone will shots you, you need to move and jump continuesly to save your back o_o you can't sniping if you continue moving and jumpin, is common sense that the reticle will be larger and the recoil will make sniping too hard. Just play Captain Deadbard if you want to snipe.
Ok now i think we are overexaggerating too much
Also me in first place to clarify i wasn't agree with the hp buff. this class should be used to high risk high reward, not low risk medium reward.
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@ShavedThronel0 First: Whenever you are zombie and want a fair match if more people are in your team, if you're coherent you can easily swap, i do this most of the time ^^ Wanna have a proof? Go check my backyard you'll see plenty of plant classes to master, and only Imps by far when i play zombie, cause i dislike them.
Second: this is pretty much your salty butthurted opinion. Imps is still the most Hard character in the zombie team. Try to Jump, shoot and zooming at the same time with a Z11 if you think is easy ^^ and try to do this with a gamepad. Also i have no problem at all to aim at those because i know their jump movement pattern because i played the class in first place and i know their flaws, also there are some class you don't even need to aim, like Electro PeaShooter. Something you can't afford to knowledge because you think that play a particular class is like cheating, this is the classic Bronze V attitude 🙂 something i'm used to see even in LOL. A class can give you a slighly more chance to win, but still teamwork is a thingThird. Wrong. Regular and Druid are the best. Also even if they are bad they have still huge impact as utility tools. They are just extremely hard to play cause HP nerf and homing nerf. And still the homing nerf was indeed correct. When you afford to pick a utility class with two powerful AoE CC to snipe, means THE GAME IS BROKEN, the homing activate on a specific nerf but still you can use the blast radius to take advatage of her shots. The Hp nerfs mean just you have to play more safe. Besides this offcouse Rose is clearly underpowered, and if you see my suggestion thread i asked for some little buffs, not a idiot huge buff like the return of homing or time snare with the same duration.
Oh i ddn't ask your opinion as a Corn player, probably i can play better than you, so don't really care 🙂
Fourth. My favorite character is Citron, Imp is just my favorite in the zombie side. I prefer plants in any way. But to be honest i don't have to justify nothing to a idiot like you. If you watched the live stream they told something good is happening to Citron and consider EVERYONE blamed his clunky animations and his shield is clear like the sun that he will have some UNJUSTIFYED love, because he is already a VERY SOLID character. But you'll see by yourself. Next patch plants will dominate for sure. 100% 🙂
Zombie main will come to the forum and every good plant class will be nerfed like the same will happen to the Zombies next patch if you CONTINUE TO SPAM QQ. That's why i made a thread with Minor changes that will make the game balanced, not just in favor of Plant classes like you are going to make with your constant QQ.
What do you think will happen if plants for a reason will become stronger for a couple of months?
Citron will get nerfed to a poin he will become weaker than before, Rose nerfed again. With their AoE CC down, plants will not anymore afford anymore a balanced game, no matter how they will fix this, and considering Devs are feared to buff things instead of nerfing to hell those, you will forget about joining the game.But go ahead, my predicition is correct, ask for more buffs and make the game one side for the plants for a couple of months before the next incoming patch that will eventually destroy everyone of them.
Fifth. First, STOP TALKING ABOUT SKILLS. Seriously this game has no skill flow. If you want a very skill full game, go play league of legends or dota, when the easier character takes at least more than 200 hours to learn to play DECENTLY. This is a game meant to HAVE FUN 🙂 If you don't play this game for this reason and just to test your streNght seriously, you have choosen the wrong game 🙂@Sassbre I ddnt'say imps are underpowered, but just the regular and shrimp are not that op like people claim, and whenever their HP will be cutten again without anything to trade back they will be barely playable. Especially the regular one with that bullet dispersion.
Imps sniping, are you serious? If you stand still in the same place everyone will shots you, you need to move and jump continuesly to save your back o_o you can't sniping if you continue moving and jumpin, is common sense that the reticle will be larger and the recoil will make sniping too hard. Just play Captain Deadbard if you want to snipe.
Ok now i think we are overexaggerating too much
Also me in first place to clarify i wasn't agree with the hp buff. this class should be used to high risk high reward, not low risk medium reward.
I disagree with a few points here. Firstly the plants have a ton of defensive powers making it very tough for them to just explode out of the spawning area. They are literally a side that was originally designed to dig into a point and hold it. a lot of abilities leave the plants immobile (peashooter gattling gun and sunflower sun beam for example). Plants are being forced to do something to hide in a spawn point because that's the only thing they can do, poor cactus only has abilities that let him dig into a hole and snipe. You're not going on the offensive with tall nuts and potato mines. Don't even get me started on the garlic drone. Chomper will die after he swallows one zombie and the zombies have far to many counters to being swallowed anymore. Sun Flower is a joke, but it much better since they resolved the hit box issues they were having. Her short range heal forces her into combat with one of her buddies, but she has a gun meant for medium to long range skirmishes (where she still sees some success). Rose was nerfed into the ground, especially the ice variant. Citron just gets wrecked and his empeach takes too long to fire. I think Corn and Pea can do their jobs well but with the rest of their team lacking it's honestly hard to play them properly.
Also your point about making plants play together to be better isnt very fair either since the same could be said for zombies. With the exception that zombies are still successful when they go Rambo and do not coordinate.
Lastly telling people to "GET GUD, SON" is not the issue, it generally an argument I see from people that don't play the plant side enough.
I do agree that plants over exaggerate the imbalance issues but I also see where they are coming from. Not only are most their classes/varients inferior the map design also favors zombies and their abilities.
