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45,000 player kills - you need to get out more 🙂
The problem isn't GW2 because on it's own it's actually a pretty decent game. No, the problem is actually GW1 and the fact that after all this time it still refuses to go away. It's very, very rare that the ongoing popularity of the prequel overlaps with the release of the sequel (even more so after a 2 year gap between releases) yet it seems like GW1 has fallen into that category, resulting in the unusual scenario of active gamers being able to make a better judgement of the game. On any other day (with a game that had expired it's usefulness) PopCap would probably have gotten away with the "bigger, badder, bigger" approach of GW2 and i'm pretty sure the newer take on the franchise would probably have been better accepted amongst plant and zombie lovers. But as we all know this doesn't seem to be "any other day"
I do kind of sympathise with PopCap because it was always going to be a difficult process in trying to coax an active 'old school' crew away from GW1 - and nothing short of an exceptional product was ever going to achieve that goal. As I have said on previous occasions GW2 is a good game (maybe even a very good game in it's own merit) but it hasn't quite reached those desired expectation levels that gamers wanted.
If it's not broken, fix it anyway because that's what people want.
If it's not broken, don't fix it and suffer the wrath of people complaining about paying for the same product over and over again
Oh how I envy software developers 🙂
- 10 years ago
XP given, welcome to the club. You can either try voice your opinion like I am trying, or you can say your piece and leave. I am probably going to regret wasting my time and effort trying to balance this mess though because chances are the newbies that abuse overpowered characters think they're the best, think you're super bad and well, they make sure everyone stops playing so that they can feel powerful 🙂
Hypocrites everywhere, they're so happy when Rose was fixed but now are hell bent anything else getting fixed because their side is winning. People who only play balanced games have quit and gone, I'm struggling to find a reason to play online because when I use the broken characters I'm winning everyone, it's not even a challenge.
They probably should have stuck to plants always defending, if they weren't able to predict the outcome of this one sided mess.
- ApprovedAnonymous10 years agoThe new characters ruined the game. They did not buff the old characters so they're basically useless against the new insanity. Like honestly I can't hit the imp for *. And I keep getting gravity bombed and group shot every 30 seconds. The new maps feel uninspired. The pacing is way too fast. There are way too many loading screens just to get to an online match. The game lags when friends join. This is what happens when you don't do any research and just assume your audience wants whatever you give them.
- 10 years ago
Yep.
Balance is important for games to be fun, because when you lose, it should be because the other player/team is simply better, not because a class is broken or too powerful.
Fun > Winning
Winning = Fun
Losing < Fun
Losing can only be fun when games are too close for comfort, and everyone had a really great time. Not when it's a landslide, or when classes are broken. People seem to have the idea that I want two identicle sides, well I have news for you...I don't.
You can't just give one side a class that has Blink and a Shotgun, and gave that same side a Mech that has TWICE the health of any other unit with extra abilities, on top of that same side having way more offensive orientated abilities.
That creates imbalance, to even the most stupid of people...
If you can't see this, then you're choosing to simply ignore this fact. They created this imbalance in the first game and it was evident, to anyone that knows anything about imbalance. They couldn't create lanced characters for game modes where one team has turrets and spawns in the same place, that's not fair? They can however adjust classes, game modes and maps to favour one team over another and well, they haven't done this properly.
- ApprovedAnonymous10 years ago
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
XP given, welcome to the club. You can either try voice your opinion like I am trying, or you can say your piece and leave. I am probably going to regret wasting my time and effort trying to balance this mess though because chances are the newbies that abuse overpowered characters think they're the best, think you're super bad and well, they make sure everyone stops playing so that they can feel powerful 🙂
Hypocrites everywhere, they're so happy when Rose was fixed but now are hell bent anything else getting fixed because their side is winning. People who only play balanced games have quit and gone, I'm struggling to find a reason to play online because when I use the broken characters I'm winning everyone, it's not even a challenge.
They probably should have stuck to plants always defending, if they weren't able to predict the outcome of this one sided mess.
The irony of this post underscores how much of a hypocrite you are. You say you love plants (like me) and yet you've openly stated on other threads that you'll only play zombies now, with the 'op' classes just so you can win. To make it worse you've mastered most of these, and their variants, by farming xp under very, very favourable conditions against AI, and then taking these fully upgraded 'op' classes online against underleveled plant players.
Yep that's just peachy. Thanks for your support as a fellow plant player.
- 10 years ago
LOL 🙂
I haven't played any classes online that I have Mastered, and I haven't been online for about a week because when I took all my newbie zombies there I was stomping everyone. I'm hardly going to take my fully upgraded ones there, I'm saying what's the point?
I now regret levelling up so quick, I wanted to force my rank at 1337 and never level up anything, but because I've maxed out too many of one particular class I can't max one character from every class so there might be some classes I can't play again...
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- 10 years agostop being a * * riding fanboyto quote myself from a previous thread
even more so with electro brainz beam but theres a LOT of * wrong with this game that NEEDS fixing im glad i got my 60 back and such things needing fixed as ive seen thus far is
the flowers solar beam being canceled for no reason ive even had it happen to me 7 * times in a row!
col. cobs missles dissapearing as soon as he launches them leaving you with no shots fired and now being forced to have a wasted cooldown to sit threw while you get your * handed to you in a hand basket
the server lag is horrid
enemies take no damage from the first half of your clips very often often enough to get * over from it aka you give away your location for no reason when they should have been dead and NOT even have gotten that * chance yet the enemy can hit you with every single shot or even hit you around corners cause to them your standing in 1 spot even when you have 30 * ping!!!
the parrot has too damn much hp and the garlic drone too little either nerf the birds hp to 5 or give the drone 20
bigger better butter is a paid dlc only so everyone else is stuck with the *ty butter barrage buff needed but we all know its not gonna happen cause itll devalue there micro transaction
chompers burrow being canceled as soon as its used forcing it on cooldown and * you out of your ability much like the col corns missles dissapearing
speaking of the missles the inv walls on certain objects aka the hit boxes are way to * huge some times a lot of the maps i shoot my missles and they blow up as soon as they launch cause they "hit the object" even when im not even standing next to it!
imps did NOT need 25 more hp if people wanna cry about imp being too squishy then learn how to be nimble you bunch of * squeeker noobs! either nerf hp to about 60 at the MOST or nerf the mechs armor or both
people standing in the middle in turf take over yet the game says the plants or zombie defenders win cause "no one is there" bull * game
i could go on but i think we all get the picture here this game is far from as good as all these youtubers and other fanboys make it out to be
can it be fun? yes when it works but is it fun currently? no too much bull * being pulled servers laggy or losing connection to games too often even with having ping under 70 99.99999% of the time! and all the other bull * that makes this game almost unplayable fix your * game * cap!
- 10 years ago
@nightshadow989 wrote:stop being a * * riding fanboyto quote myself from a previous threadeven more so with electro brainz beam but theres a LOT of * wrong with this game that NEEDS fixing im glad i got my 60 back and such things needing fixed as ive seen thus far is
the flowers solar beam being canceled for no reason ive even had it happen to me 7 * times in a row!
col. cobs missles dissapearing as soon as he launches them leaving you with no shots fired and now being forced to have a wasted cooldown to sit threw while you get your * handed to you in a hand basket
the server lag is horrid
enemies take no damage from the first half of your clips very often often enough to get * over from it aka you give away your location for no reason when they should have been dead and NOT even have gotten that * chance yet the enemy can hit you with every single shot or even hit you around corners cause to them your standing in 1 spot even when you have 30 * ping!!!
the parrot has too damn much hp and the garlic drone too little either nerf the birds hp to 5 or give the drone 20
bigger better butter is a paid dlc only so everyone else is stuck with the *ty butter barrage buff needed but we all know its not gonna happen cause itll devalue there micro transaction
chompers burrow being canceled as soon as its used forcing it on cooldown and * you out of your ability much like the col corns missles dissapearing
speaking of the missles the inv walls on certain objects aka the hit boxes are way to * huge some times a lot of the maps i shoot my missles and they blow up as soon as they launch cause they "hit the object" even when im not even standing next to it!
imps did NOT need 25 more hp if people wanna cry about imp being too squishy then learn how to be nimble you bunch of * squeeker noobs! either nerf hp to about 60 at the MOST or nerf the mechs armor or both
people standing in the middle in turf take over yet the game says the plants or zombie defenders win cause "no one is there" bull * game
i could go on but i think we all get the picture here this game is far from as good as all these youtubers and other fanboys make it out to be
can it be fun? yes when it works but is it fun currently? no too much bull * being pulled servers laggy or losing connection to games too often even with having ping under 70 99.99999% of the time! and all the other bull * that makes this game almost unplayable fix your * game * cap!
I agree with all of the above. The list of problems with this game seems to have no end.