Gardens and Graveyards issue.

@tjc9999 the problem is that the zombies win its there overpowered its the fact that the team your with isnt throwing a strong denfense ive done maps were we have held them off at the very frist point i see it all the time trust me i see it where people that are the plants will just sit in the back and try and defend from the main spawn or camp on a roof top than when the zombie team swarms the point they run off like there scared to try and defend it

Plants are a little underpowered, the problem is the Peashooter is holding them back. He's too strong and does too much, which keeps other Plants from the spotlight.

The map you're talking about, Wal-Nut Hills, is definitely a problem for plants. They lose every time, there's nothing they can do on the last phase. On the other two maps, it's pretty much impossible for Plants to lose. It's a little out of whack right now, hope they do something.

i can tell you a easy fix

get better team mates and stop crying nerf aint gonna happen

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@Rowen18 wrote:

Plants are a little underpowered, the problem is the Peashooter is holding them back. He's too strong and does too much, which keeps other Plants from the spotlight.

The map you're talking about, Wal-Nut Hills, is definitely a problem for plants. They lose every time, there's nothing they can do on the last phase. On the other two maps, it's pretty much impossible for Plants to lose. It's a little out of whack right now, hope they do something.

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I'm sorry but that makes literally no sense at all... they are underpowered but they are overpowered... how would the Pea hold back an entire team by being OP!?... I honestly don't think they are OP at all and i wreck them 90% of the time on my All-star. The thing about them is that a lot of people play them and this leads to a lot of deaths from them. If any of the classes are OP it's the All-star, amazing damage, with the right abilities he can fire pretty much NON STOP without a reload or cooldown his range is great, high hp, a shield and one hell of a nasty explosive attack on top of a speedy tackle dash that deals a lot of damage and evades just about everything including chompers. 

@wolfmoon2682 he one of those kids that likes to cry nerf that nerf this nerf that and this just to ruin the game nothing in plants vs zombies garden warfare is overpowered because as the lead dev said in a viddoc all class are well blanced to take on each other and he also goes to say that charcter will get different attacks further down the road but they will not be nerfing anything due to the fact they had planed and balanced all charcters to have strghs and weaknesses

wolfmoon, the plants overall are a bit underpowered, but Peashooter is overtuned and it's this overpowered nature that makes plants appear to be balanced. This is reflected by the fact that you see 10 Peashooters every game and rarely do you see similar numbers of other plants. The takeaway from this is fairly simple. People play Peashooter almost exclusively, and even if you have deniers (the guy above me), play tendency is more indicative of the truth. And the trend is that the majority of every plant team consists of Peashooters, with very little exception.

You mentioned All-Star being great, and yes he is an amazing character. However, Chompers deal with him easily, but since people are more inclined to play Peashooters because of their overtuned multi-kill potential, Chomper doesn't get chosen, and you can pull off some good plays with All-Star. Given that, you might think Peashooter spam is a self-correcting problem since it enables All-Stars to do extremely well, but the simple fact is that playing a Peashooter is the optimal choice 90% of the time, and that is a problem.

At the end of the day you see a fairly diverse Zombie team in most games. On the Plant team, you do not. You see 10 Peashooters, 1 Cactus, and 1 Sunflower, or a variation of that. This is a health problem for the game, and it will have negative implications on the game's longevity if power is not taken from the Peashooter and redistributed amongst other Plants (who, by comparison, are weaker.)

It is fairly self-evident that Peashooter's kit is packed with too much. The Chili Bean Bomb's radius is absurd, and it gives very little cue as to where it is or how far it is on its detonation sequence. Also take into consideration Hyper. Not only is it a speed boost, but let's Peashooter jump 3x or more. The Zombie roof fighter counterpart, Foot Soldier, jumps once and that's all the ability does. But most people already know all of this.

I hope this cleared up my thought process for you.

The pea Shooters are not overpowered. Heck when they introduced the game the producer was asked to give his IDEAL plant team. He suggested 6-8 pea shooters and 2 of every other class. They are meant to be the main force. The problem with garden and graveyards is the cap is to fast for the zombies. Most game people won't play as sunflower. If there is no sunflower on your team you should be the F'ing SUNFLOWER OR YOU OR YOU ARE GOING TO LOOSE.

Ps When you are playing as plants you should RUSH THE TELAPOTER for the zombies. If you can Prevent teleporter from going up you will win the game. But noone ever does......they just let the zombies build it and then they cap the garden with EASE. People just need to learn how to play the game.

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@Tjc9999 wrote:

 

And, are people still crashing in Gardens and Graveyards? Cause' I seem to now always be on the map where you must protect/capture Dave's mansion. I havent played a match today where it had been about the TACTICAL CUKE or The Mega Flower. Maybe because thats where I and most people were crashing most on those maps. What about you?

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You're correct that some of the maps aren't showing up at the moment, but hopefully that'll be fixed along with the crashes.