EA Staff (Retired)After having played even more i can say that people slowly begin to understand how to deal with Mechs. They usually don't last long and don't even reach the Garden in Turf Takeover.
But there are still plenty of Imps doing nothing else but Impkata and Grenades. 3-6 Imps per round are normal.
Then on the plants team everything seems acceptable besides the BBQ Corn and his Spray and Pray mentality. Its a guaranteed 50-70 dmg over every range that requires nothing but a bit of aiming and shooting. When i look at the Fire Pea for example, we have a lot less damage and slower projectiles, that reach up to 30 damage.
Roses Goatify could last a bit longer. And her speed reduction during charge should not be as punishing as it is right now.
Over at the zombies we have lots of issues. I noticed that plenty of Pirates - especially the Laser one - do nothing but sit back and reach vanquish and streak boasts without any trouble. The Pirates aim is simply too fast and his fire rate combined with his damage output is too much. Only the Camo Cactus can beat that, but the Camo requires perfect aim and aims much slower.
Not to forget how imbalanced that Eggsplosion is. It's not about how the Cactus Drone does, but how impossible it is to escape. Combined with the tiny size of the parrot - which makes it harder to hit - and the Pirates Laser damage and accuracy and his close range capabilities, not only to burst, but also to escape with armor, is he too powerful. And it is no wonder that so many specifically play the Laser Pirate only.
This whole camping mentality is especially unfair, when others throw their bodies at the objectives and get a lot lower ratios and less points. New Boasts like a Capture and a Defender Boast could even address that.
And to make it even worse lack the plants a proper backstab. That way an effective counter snipe, to stop the pirates, becomes difficult, as the Cactus constantly has to deal with Scientists. All while the Pirate can easily snipe and escape.
Combined with the masses of Mechs and Super Brainz that push the plants back, has it become extremely difficult to achieve progress.
Maybe the Citron is a way to backstab. Especially the Frozen one. I have to see. And whoever thought it was a good idea to add these stupid AI bots at the top of the wall in Zomburbia: NO IT IS NOT. It is annoying and wastes time.
Now some Though Talk that will upset a lot of people:
Super Brainz Beam needs to deal 50% less damage and have 50% more overheat across the board. The electric one needs to deal 75% less arc damage.
Super Brainz Turbo Twister needs to have a shorter duration by 25% and the damage reduction need to be reduced once again by at least 25%.
If that does not happen the developers can as well just remove that class entirely from the game, as there is no point in having a melee tank that does not use melee. Incompetent people either use Turbo Twister up close or the beam from afar. We could also just give the Chomper a 10 shot clip of his Goop Cannon and watch how every Chomper just camps and shoots. And as ridiculous as it sounds: It is ridiculous.
Of course i also see ways to split it. Let's say the Turbo Twister gets a child like a Tank Twister. Where one type has damage reduction, and the other one deals more damage. That way people can choose one and crease the overall variety in the game.
And very important to mention is that even more ridiculous bug where the Twisters slow effect actually affects a burrowed Chomper. How that could make it through testing remains a mystery. But it has to go. Only the Engineer should be able to touch a burrowed Chomper with his stun weaponry.
I've now been in enough Turf Takeover games to know that a constant barrage of Turbo Twisters and Mechs makes the zombies win. There are not enough Roses to stop one after another. Not to forget that the Pirates Barrel Blast also needs to be dealt with before it ignites. And if there are Roses they are being targeted by the Laser Pirates - or simply by Electro Beams.
The amount of HP the zombie team can throw into a garden with all the defense bonuses and basic HP is too much to deal with. While on the plants team no one can constantly tank all the twisters, Blasters, Barrel Blasts and ZPGs. Occasionally a Bean drops in a graveyard, but that is all the zombies have to fear.
So far i think the plants problem is not their damage output, but their lack of damage reduction. The amount of perfectly timed teamwork the plants require to stop a Twister, Mech or Barrel Blast is rarely to be found to take a heavily defended graveyard.
So my respect goes to people that play Super Brainz without Beam and only a few twisters. And what needs to disappear are players like the screenshot shows.
Good feedback, but do you think nerfing a few variants will change anything?
Would you agree or disagree that plants need more health and firepower across the board to be on par with this overload? That is pretty much what I've been saying all along, and my view won't change unless the game changes...
