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Unlocking characters and abilities through RNG = not working for it
Look at DOTA > Everything is unlocked
Look at League of Legends > You have to either grind for unlocking characters by choice or buy them with monies OR buy a mystery box which is RNG
Look at Battlefront > Grind EXP for skills/cosmetics
Look at Counterstrike > Weapon Skins (Either buy them on market, or open a crate with RNG)
Look at WOW > Kill a boss, get random loot / Win an arena match, get random loot
Look at PVZGW > Grind coins, open sticker packs, get parts of or entire characters/cosmetics
Look at EvE Online > Kill rats in a belt, get random loot
RNG is not a new concept, nor a bad thing in a game that is about collecting and having fun.
- 9 years agoDOTA is a F2P game w/ no RNG for core competitive play
LoL a "F2P" game that allows you to spend money or in game currency on what you wish, no RNG
Battlefront has no RNG, you can spend the currency you earn on what you wish
Counter Strike a F2P that makes money off of gambling for weapons through RNG
WoW not as an RNG as you may think, all items have a specified % drop rate, also, dunno how you compare an RPG in which competitive play is an after though to a competitive shooter
PVZ, unlike the other (mostly) online competitive games you mentioned, you pay $80 for it and then pray to the RNGesus for core multiplayer components. I'd have a lot less beef with it if it did follow the Star Wars progression system of reaching the level cap within 24 hours and spending your in game currency on what you want to use.- Anonymous9 years ago
The slots gives coins out constantly in this game...I'm able to get the 75k a couple of times each day...if not several. >.>
- 9 years agoNo need to make this personal dude. I have an astounding K/D ratio and am 5 character packs away from having all the characters (minus legendarys). But yes, you are correct, I am yet to get the Fire Rose.
It's a great game, I'm just calling out it's crappy unlock system. I will not be a PVZGW2 apologist. I just don't think it's fair that I already Mastered 3 Roses (and 2 imps) while some other players are almost level 200 and are yet to obtain a second Rose, second Imp or whatever is top tier or what they are effective at playing with.
This isn't about salt or skill level. It's an objective look at an RNG unlock system for a competitive game people already paid $80 for- 9 years agoI just find it astounding that some people on the forums, who are obviously competitive in the multiplayer space if they take time to hit up the forums, think that it's balanced to have abilities and playabale characters unlocked by RNG.
If PVZGW2 had a sponsored competitive tournament they would be forced to play the welcome mat or provide hundreds of consoles that have profiles which have already unlocked all playable characters and abilities because it's unbalanced at a competitive level to have people not have access to these things.
- Anonymous9 years ago
The unlock system's fine. I'll ignore the fact that you paid twenty extra dollars for the game to just say that. You play the game, you earn more coins by being better at the game, you unlock characters that way. It would be one thing if one character could destroy all other characters but with the exception of Rose and all of her variants, just having a certain variant doesn't make you any better at the game. I've seen people with legendaries get killed by people using the base characters.
Even with the legendaries you have to be skilled in order to get the most out of it. You only get the most out of it when you mange to get several kills in a row without dying, which requires skill.
EDIT: Mastered 3 Roses. And then you have the nerve to talk about being effective whilst using the most overpowered character in the game. Scumbag.- 9 years ago
"EDIT: Mastered 3 Roses. And then you have the nerve to talk about being effective whilst using the most overpowered character in the game. Scumbag."
My thoughts exactly HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA