Is it just me or are things out of whack?
I’m a nearly day one player so been at it for a while as some of you know but things seem out of balance more than they’ve been in a long time. I’m bias to one side and you can find that in my previo...
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Sorry I missed this one. I could address each point but I think it is more constructive to just debate the big picture but I do not have an issue with any of the cards you mentioned.
The sole reason why zombies go twice is because it is unfair if zombies did everything first and plants got to counter second and that was the end of the turn. So to balance it the game more or less split the zombie round into a zombie only turn and a trick only turn. It makes sense and it works. Teleport destroys this.
The award though for the most ridiculously designed card that is within the rules is intergalactic warlord. Buff every single card you have on the board and will ever own? Seriously.
Oh I forgot another mechanic - loops. I have no idea why the game thinks it is okay to have heartichoke loop and berry loop.
The sole reason why zombies go twice is because it is unfair if zombies did everything first and plants got to counter second and that was the end of the turn. So to balance it the game more or less split the zombie round into a zombie only turn and a trick only turn. It makes sense and it works. Teleport destroys this.
The award though for the most ridiculously designed card that is within the rules is intergalactic warlord. Buff every single card you have on the board and will ever own? Seriously.
Oh I forgot another mechanic - loops. I have no idea why the game thinks it is okay to have heartichoke loop and berry loop.
I could just as easily argue that it wasn’t fair that plants got to go second. After all, isn’t that why you think Teleport “breaks the game”? Teleport isn’t good because it lets you play earlier; it’s good because it lets you play later.
But hold on and wait a minute, because Teleport is not functionally the only card that lets you play Zombies during the trick phase (and not counting Beam Me Up and its ilk, which tend to be more resource-efficient than Zombies played after Teleport). Graveyard does it too, essentially, and is also in the same class as Smoke Bomb. In fact, both of these cards are more aggressive than Teleport, better in Aggro, and part of the same Turn 2 win combo.
Gravestones can be responded to, but there are not a lot of cards that do it... and there is so much built-in Trick hate (Black-Eyed Pea, Forget-Me-Nuts, Brainana, that three cost nut thing, DMD), that Teleport is not necessarily the safer option. Both Graveyard and Teleport can, for instance, get you a Trickster or a Zombot 2000 after plants have played (or a Kitchen Sink Zombie that can’t be squashed, et cetera).
I think you object to Teleport b/c it feels wrong and it can be powerful. But I think it’s essential b/c it enables control. That’s essentially what it is: a control card; a card that gives you more options at a higher cost. Trust me when I say that when I’m playing Aggro, I’d rather have a Nibble than a Teleport 90% of the time, especially if I’m staring down a field of Astro-Shrooms. More options aren’t more options if you can’t play them.
Warlord is also a weird card to single out. It’s only really good once again in a control v. control matchup. Turn 5 is kind of late in the game for Aggro... a straight pump trick or i.e. Going Viral seems much better if you’re trying to win in the early (or even mid)-game. I understand his effect feels wrong... and yet there is (increasing) precedent for cards that affect cards you haven’t yet played (i.e. when bananas were modified via update).
Overall, my personal feeling is that Bullseye was the one true mistake of PvZ, and most fundamentally changes the game. Tri-Carrotops can be absolutely brutal, QDCM is still a force of nature you need to respond to or lose, and they are both components of clinical Aggro decks that never allow you to draw superpowers.
