My ideal next PvZ shooter
This post is a slight divergence from the single subject posts I’ve been making about the next PvZ shooter, and is instead what I would make if I was able to make it with very little restrictions. Th...
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These are really cool ideas from what I have seen overall. I will make some suggestions, however great post! 😇
With the game title, I am unsure if it is necessary to add the "Garden Warfare Reborn" part at the end, it may just be worth calling it "Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 3" instead, as it would be a long title and veterans, as well as new players, should be able to understand from the title what the game is all about. Having that title could help as well as those who was disappointed in BfN and had quit or went back to GW2 would most likely see this and try it out, but with the advertising that would be done to the game before it released, the "reborn" aspect could be mentioned in the advertising instead of the title of the game.
With the maps, it may be worth adding a couple of new completely new maps to the table. Having the GW, GW2 and perhaps some BfN maps return seem completely fine as it is and I would be down for that, but if no new maps was added it would not be as interesting, as the current maps are fine but lots of players have played in these maps loads of times already. Bringing the old maps would be completely fine in my opinion, but adding new maps in as well would make this shooter even more unique, and interesting for those players who have played the same maps plenty of times.
Buisness Model 3 seems the most appealing to me personally, but all of them seem to have their advantages. It gives the options for players to buy stuff in game or to buy it early with paid money. The Veteran Reward requirement might be too high, as it requires players to have played all 3 shooters before and to have maxed out their rank in all of them. How many players would have reached max rank in BfN to be honest, since many players were disappointed and went back to GW2 or quit? That said, it could be fine as long as it was not unfair to other players who did not reach these requirements or to players who would be new to this shooter.
I agree on virtually everything, but those are just my suggestions!
@TheSprinter85Yeah, my name here is a bit long! I was messing about with the name there, trying to come with something clever and just made it awkward! XD
It would certainly have new maps. If it used GW and GW maps, we'd have 6 Gardens and Graveyards maps and only 3 Herbal Assault maps, so they'd need to balance that a bit (I'm not differentiating the night and day versions here). I want so many maps added that it's unrealistic (seriously, like 100 new maps would make me smile), but a more realistic number, like 4 new TT maps and at least 8 of the smaller ones would be a good start, with more added over time. They could bring the smaller, non-TT maps forward from BfN, even if a lot dislike Oozevoir (Time Park is my least favorite map to this day though), but for the BfN TT maps, they'd need to make some changes, and Tourist Trap Island would need a rework, especially on the final minigame as just pushing a switch back and forth is not as enjoyable or interesting as any of the others.
For the veteran rewards, I was thinking mostly coins. Nothing major. Just a nice little thank you for getting the other games and more if you leveled higher. Kind of like the GW2 veteran rewards although with no time limit if possible.
@Iron_Guard8 Actually did not consider a time limit of the veteran reward. If players could claim it at any time and the rewards aren't too significant, it should not be a problem. I would not mind if I missed out on it or not.
New maps would make it more interesting. Of course players want to see older maps, but if it only had them, it could become a bit repetitive very quickly, especially for veterans, but reimplementing most of the old maps would be awesome nevertheless.
- @Iron_Guard8 They should focus on herbal assault to even out the number but after that they can do what they want imo.
After the dissapointing amount in Bfn I really want more non turf maps as oozevoir was the only one we got and its barely above time park tbh.
More night and day variations of maps are nice but I can see if they aren't the most focused things over balancing and new maps.
A gw3 title does hammer the point home more straightforward but tbhe advertising can be whatever it wants, even inckude the remasters as a selling point due to the games amount of maps for being on console and telling people they don't need former experience with the series to get the full package.Bit of a rant perhaps but after playing some TT rounds last night in GW2, and having mixed results; I joined near the end of a match in Zomburbia, did alright, then again and the zombies were spawn camping so hard that it was a nightmare, then 2 decent rounds, and then the lobby had filled back up after dropping down, we were doing well attacking Great White North and first 1 then another hacker joined and ruined things by playing that Imitator plant, a Gig-Torchwood doing insane damage even for a boss, and summoning Baron Von Bats bosses on defense. I took a screenshot and reported them, but at least one of those accounts was level 0 so likely someone's alt account just to mess with the game so even if they get banned, I'm not sure how much that will help.
Now there's some things that BfN did that really need to change in a new game, like how a Citron in the game with a single sunflower can be a nightmare to take out, and how some maps are just too spawn camp friendly (besides Giddy Park), with multiple Citrons with their extremely powerful shields, can take turns blocking for each other and make playing the zombies on maps like Preserve Pastures, normally my 2nd favorite TT map in BfN, horrible.
In GW1, again without hacks, Peashooters and Foot Soldiers dominate by getting to heights that most/all other characters can't. I love Cactus Canyon but when that map is redone for a new shooter, you need to do something about the super high rocks at the first point where Toxic Peas camp out and it can be impossible to hit them back with any regularity. There are other spots like this and terrain exploits I've seen in BfN where one player continuously gets to heights you can't normally get too (I've tried in private matches), so these need to be fixed as well.
These are a few things I really want fixed for a new game; make it as close to impossible to hack/cheat/exploit as possible, make healing useful but not as OP as it is in BfN, make spawn camping as close to impossible as you can, and reduce the power of shields for characters like Citron. At least for the All-Star, you can get under the dome and take out the dummy, and I don't want shields removed completely, just not so oppressive, especially when combined with BfN's extremely powerful healing, that gives less XP than the GW games. I do want verticality in my maps, as it adds a lot of tactical depth, but not where only a small chunk of players can use it and you can't get an angle to shoot them back.
