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I swear when overwatch 2 comes out people are going to completely forget how much the game went downhill (and blizzards dirty laundry) and buy it on day 1 because gamers never learn.
I get your point about cartoonish graphics not being taken seriously in esports and it makes me wonder why they technically made the graphics even more kid friendly in bfn when you think about it, i mean the animated blood and darker atmosphere gw had compared to bfn completely getting rid of both (fun fact: in japan gw1 has the equivalent of the teen rating).
Battle arena could've been a good mode but it was stagnant and repitive that its predecessor has more going for it. Not to mention zombies won 80% of the time. Sad how its the only new mode bfn actually brought to the table and it still flopped.
I know this may be an unpopular opinion to some but I really don't think esports will ever be this really huge thing a even more so than real life sports there are factors that have to be accounted for like connection, fps, the games mechanics itself, and control scheme. It can be fun to join in on a local tourney every blue moon but I really don't think it will blow up worldwide like some hope as some game genres are much more exiciting to watch than others.
I'm of the same mind that they should really focus more on what already works for pvz and i personally think that's a big problem with the series as a whole since it seems like they got two games before trying to absolutely change the series again.
I loathe e-sports so we're on the same page there. I love video games and have since the Atari 2600 was the console, so that's pretty much since they came into our lives, but making them so competitive and trying to make a spectator sport out of isn't the best idea. I know a lot of YouTubers ans streamers make a living off of it, but it's more for people liking watching the folks that they like play the game rather than the game itself most of the time.
I actually uninstalled actiblizz's stuff over the Blitzchung situation in 2019, but I hadn't played OW for at least a year prior to that, and WoW had become even worse than normal so was an easy choice, but after hearing about their serious internal issues I will likely never return without massive changes on their part. OW2 is a half-baked attempt to deflect from those issues and even if it's halfway decent, which is in doubt, there are better options out there, GW2 foremost among them!
I still play GW2 everyday, even if only briefly on some days. I'm still getting quests done, and enjoying the scenery and world that make up a game that I truly love. I haven't quit GW or BfN, but I have other stuff going on like work and other RL stuff and other games, so can't play them as much and GW2 is my personal favorite of all 3 games as well.
I was more open to BfN's changes than a lot of those that left over time, but I also find it less fun than its predecessors in general. I hate to be a curmudgeon about things ('don't change anything!'), but I also feel that many of the BfN changes were a step in the wrong direction. I do want a GW3, but I also don't want them to feel they can't make some innovations either. GW2 is great but I'd not say it's perfect, and some fine tuning of what we loved, while keeping some of BfN's better ideas, could make a fantastic game.
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@Iron_Guard8Yeah I feel like a lot of people watch esports more for the players than the game itself and some are just meh games to watch like compare a competitve rts where they'll spend half the match setting up compared to competitve counter strike where half of both teams can be dead within a minute of the round but then the survivors just camp corners.
I haven't played overwatch in years. Even before the political controversies I couldn't really see what everyone else loved about it so much as other shooters offered way more freedom and depth to gameplay and maps (this was even before I started playing tf2), I also never really cared about the lore or characters, which is funny since i got super invested in the lore and characters of tf2 and gw.
I still go back to gw1 and 2 everyonce in a while but I really haven't touched bfn in a year and I don't see that changing.
I think the problem is that while there can be change as neither gw game is perfect for a variety of reasons things like rework back chomps and make walnut hills finale objective not be a butt became reworking the entire series from the ground up to where things that were already fine like aiming became a mess and butchering the aesthetic.
They can definetly keep some things from bfn like the spotting system and hud changes but overall i think fans would definetly appreciate a more gw centered sequel.
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