New Ability: Plant Mech
Ladies and gentlemen, I am pleased to announce my new suggestion and idea...the notorious Mega Chomper! He transforms into a Mega Chomper that gives him 350-400 health similar to Imps Mech. In this...
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Don't forget about Turbo Twister, Captains Barrel/Cannon, Imps Mech is a good counter obviously...
- Imp Punt / Ultra Tackle do 250 damage, add a few bullets and All Star can wipe it out in 3 seconds.
- Scientists DPS with Zoologist, 11 Ammo Clip doing 30 each without damage upgrades, add a sticky bomb or two and he can wreck it.
- ZPG dealing 250...that needs nerfed, Shuck Shot only deals 100.
- Ah, Engineer has Stun Grenades, and a beastly Chaingun now. Roadie Z can block out abilities of EVERYONE with his primary weapon.
Plenty of counters?
Zoologist sends his regards. He cackled these words on his swift exit, "Who needs CC when you have this much DPS?"
Why are you so biased? What exactly is your problem with my suggestion?
ZPG?? You barely see any soldiers so I'd say that's a no. Otherwise I'd agree that's obvious. If imp punt is so good, then why aren't chili bombs good for mechs? Snipe it with deadbeard. Snipe it with cactus who does more damage as he fire's faster, and some variants do much more damage anyway. Barrel bomb means that deadbeard has to actually not be sniping miles away like usual and actually in the action. As for super brainz how would he get close if the plants actually figure out to just cc him? Come on you do better than this.
I would agree with everything that's been said about killing a plant mech, but the same goes for killing the zombie one now. You even said yourself Korn's easily kill them, so how are they an issue at all?
I'm not even remotely biased btw - you already know i've been mostly playing plants. I just don't see them as a problem in being dealt with. Adding one to plants and your other suggested buffs (along with nerfs to the zombies) will make plants massively OP. That should be clear as day to anyone. Screw that or we'll going around in circles.
Nobody needs to use Soldiers, this might give players a reason to use one.
I am happy with circles, it is much better than the current gaming experience we are all having now. I'm not disputing or debating that Imps Mech is overpowered, or impossible to take out.
Why can zombies have better stuff, but plants aren't allowed the same stuff?
Chilli Bomb is fine, but the basic one only does what, 125 damage? Sombrero does 250 but isn't registering for most people. I threw about 10 yesterday and didn't get a single kill, and no, I didn't toss them into the river...
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
I am happy with circles, it is much better than the current gaming experience we are all having now. I'm not disputing or debating that Imps Mech is overpowered, or impossible to take out.
I thought you wanted to balance the game? You've made numerous threads stating as such, but now you don't care about going in circles regarding balance. You've also stated numerous times that the imp mech is OP and it can't be easily taken out and now you say the opposite... Which gets us to what I believe is the crux of your argument.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Why can zombies have better stuff, but plants aren't allowed the same stuff?
Better stuff is subjective as it seems you now agree it can be taken out. Face it you want something 'cool' for your chomper, and screw the balance.
Please don't assume, misunderstand or even twist what I'm saying. Quoting segments of my posts to then rip everything out of context is only going to make you look stupid when I respond directly under it. Then people wonder why I start to insult the person instead of their argument, it is probably because when someone makes a point of irritating the daylights out of me by ignoring facts and making things up...what do you expect?
What I meant by circles was I would prefer to go around in circles until balance is found. I would rather attempt to balance something than to sit there like you and claim things are fine. Why, you ask? It is because I'm not a * who gets 15,000 kills with a broken class and tries to contact Guinness world records, then uses his K/D ratio which was obtained with keyboard and mouse and come on the forums to belittle everyone else's ability to play, and balance the game.
My Chomper? Man I haven't touched Chomper for almost a week, I've been wrecking plants with zombies and well I'm bored of that now too. Just because I unlocked Unicorn Chomper and want to see him flying in the sky in a Robo Mech is completely irrelevant to anything you're assuming.
I haven't claimed Imp Mech is OP, it's blatantly obvious that it is OP. I am making claims to suggest that why the heck can one side have 400 Health Mech and the other cant?! Are you actually stupid, or just outright ignorant? I'm trying hard not to insult you, maybe it's my wording you're struggling to understand...
Me saying I'm not disputing or claiming something to be overpowered means I'm not discussing that at all, I haven't claimed it to be overpowered, but you are claiming that if a plant has the same thing then the game will be broken, thus you're admitting it is overpowered!
We are going around in circles right now, I'm saying the same thing to you over and over again but for some bizarre reason, nothing is sinking into your skull. You're a zombie, no brains, gormless, to the core...
I definitely know you understand my motive and point, and if it's not balanced to a point where the majority are happy, I'm not going to stop posting. Simple as that.
- Cactus needs Shotgun and a Cannon to match Pirate, else things won't be fair or balanced. Ever.
- Plants need a Mech, else things won't be balanced. Ever.
- Sunflower needs Shotgun and Warps, or some sort of damage mitigation, or a Mech!
- Every plant needs an upgrade in firepower to match the zombie equivalent, else things won't be balanced. EVER.
You debating my suggestion by claiming nobody plays Soldier anymore is like saying Soldier is useless and it needs buffs. You're on some heavy stuff man, maybe you should tone down the dosage of it...
You're only going to realise how broken broken half the zombies are if plants get the same *. The reason you and everyone else are against it is because you're going to struggle with everyone killing everyone, and you're not going to be able to handle it. I have read posts from players claiming you need skill to play Zoologist, and the person who claims he's the best player in the world is saying Electro Brainz is perfectly balanced, and Corn needs buffs...
What the fudge? Go ahead and quote parts of this out of context if you want to man. I will just respond to it with explanations so that even the dumbest of dumb players can understand.
Oh and if anything in this message offends you, good. I haven't spent all week on the forums to go round in endless circles, not entirely sure what you were planning to achieve with your previous post, but whatever you thought I wrote was heavily misunderstood by you.
