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@FarQM8 I think when you hear that saying of you just need to play them right only goes so far. I mean when we, or at least when I talk about buffs, I'm talking about their primary weapon. Yes it's true that you can get kills with classes if you know how to play them, but the Sunflower's primary is really pretty bad on quite a few variants. The Solar Beam is a good ability, like most abilities for all of the classes I don't find too many to need nerfs or anything. They have done that pretty well. But I mean the sunflowers primaries are so, so very weak. What's up with the Metal Petals damage? I was hitting for 5 damage? That's without her damage upgrade, but I think that'll only bring her up to 6. Her Rate of Fire is pretty terrible for the damage she does. I know she has some more life than the other sunflowers but damn. I'm doing a manual slow count and it seems like it takes 8-9 seconds to drop all of her ammo. And at 5 damage a piece you'd need practically all of it to down an all-star or super brainz lol. Wow. You'd have to hit them without missing for like 7 seconds. Likes like an eternity in a shooter. Not even kidding.
I want to list the Sunflower Variants that I feel have good primary weapons.
Vampire Flower: It's a good fire rate and the damage is strong enough to net you kills with the actual primary against the high hp target...mainly because of hp drain.
Sun Pharaoh: The best "Burst damage" sunflower that there is. No question. I like Sun Pharaoh a lot and her primary hits for good damage and quick. (I actually wish she had an upgrade for a 4 burst round)
Shadow Flower: Again High Rate of fire with that decent damage. It's higher than a normal sunflower with makes up for the damage deficiency.
Fire Flower: Obvious one here. The DoT really makes up for the lack of damage.
The rest are bad... my list of the worst are:
Mystic Flower: Very weak total charge up damage for the time it takes to charge up. Slow normal shots in comparison to all of the rapid firing sunflowers.
Alien Flower: Like Mystic, Manual shots. Only 10 rounds. The weakest DoT in the game doesn't make up for lack of shots, or the slow rate of fire.
Metal Petal: Weak Damage and even though she is auto fire her RoF seems slower than some of the other auto fire flowers.
I don't know if I get PopCaps logic with some of these things. I'm not sure why Stuffy Flower hits as hard as Fire Flower but minus the DoT. Are the enemies exploding into heal stars really that much of a difference maker to warrant such a poor damage output? Same with Metal Petal. She also has the same damage as Fire Flower, but minus the DoT damage.
Popcap devs, you obviously have my data. You can take a look at it, I give you permission. You can see how many kills I have with my main class the Sunflower. I want you to see how many of those kills were actually with her Primary weapon. Because I'm pretty sure that about 85% of my total kills actually come from Solar beam. Because her Primary is garbage... At least all of the ones not in my "best" list.