Let your voice be heard and finally a good sign they are going to further balance characters.https://twitter.com/JA_Wiebe/status/714912992551260160

It is clear that they are asking for characters, and by that I hope, characters and variants are inclusive. _____ Top 3* Nerfs 1. Imp / Mech (All of them) Imp needs both health and damage decrease, Mech needs to be brought back down to earth on a more balanced scale health wise also. I cannot understand why giving one team a class that has the equivalent of over 500 health and can cause more destruction than any other class was ever a good idea. 2. Super Brainz (Electro Brainz mainly, but all of them) Electro Brainz Beam/Arc damage needs fixing, but Turbo Twister across the board shouldn't be so fast or have so much armour. His Twister can hit around 200 points of damage, and his Fireballs aren't much far off either, couple that with his amazing manoeuvrability it makes him one of the strongest zombies of all. He has simply too much versatility, health and damage...his name is well fitting, but he doesn't need to be miles above every plant. 3. Scientist (Zoologist, Marine Biologist, Chemist, Paleontologist etc, most of them) This one is a tricky one, it's going to pain me the most because I enjoy playing healing classes. I honestly don't see why he needs a double warp, it creates too many situations where a Scientist can pretty much fall from the sky above you due to this. I just feel like his damage could be toned down considerably and maybe at a slight increase in health to compensate. Don't break him though, if he's a healer then tone him down a little, he's the best healing class in the game and one of the best damage output, couple this with his warps makes him my favourite pick every time. *Captain Deadbeard (All of them) I do feel like the Pirates Barrel needs to be looked into as well because right now it has the equivalent of around 500 health due to the ridiculous armour it gives. It is virtually impossible to destroy. Top 3* Buffs 1. Chomper (All of them) This class is not as good as it use to be, and needs to be balanced so it is functional in offensive game modes. Whether that's increasing its health, damage, given invisibility or even a Mech of its own, he needs to be given some major love so more players play this class. I would like to see additional armour given to him when digesting a zombie, damage mitigation / armour when trying to burrow and maybe some sort of digestion bar where he is capable of killing 2-3 zombies before needing to digest. Camera issues when burrowing needs to be looked at as well as the goop timer, that should be reverted. Given the fact this class has no range at all, he should be the most feared up close character class in the game, more dangerous than Scientist who can heal, and definitely more dangerous than Super Brainz who has plenty of range abilities. Chomp cannon should have an increase of damage to 150 as well so it can kill camp snipers if replacing his primary ability of goop. I still wouldn't use chomp cannon ever, but others might actually use it if it was increased. 2. Sunflower (Most of them) This class needs major love, whether it's health increase, damage increase or some sort of ability that includes a blink or shielding. I also feel like a Shotgun type weapon should be given to some weaker variants and make it more on par with the Scientist, right now she is very weak and when trying to capture bases she is killed too easily due to lack of any CC or escape abilities. A blink or a Sheild would be nice, but more health and damage might be reasonable also, she definitely needs something. 3. Cactus (Most of them) I think she should be given damage increase across the board on certain variants but also a close range shotgun similar to the pirate. I feel like Tallnuts are a bit lackluster now and well if it was replaced with a damage or shield aura, she would be able to capture points similar to the Pirate and his Barrel shenanigans. I know on the PC people have might a difference experience but let's be realistic here, compared to Captain Deadbeard she sucks. *Rose (Ice, Fire mainly, but most of them)I feel like she was over nerfed, her charged variants are very weak and she is a bit useless now. She should have a health increase, and damage increase or that slow on her charge should be removed. In terms of damage output, if a Engineer can hit 45s much more rapid why can't this class do the same? Not only are her shots weak but they are very slow as well. Support classes should be able to kill as well, not just tickle the enemy. _____ I honestly feel like there are too many to list here, so I'm going to have to stick to my guns to what I feel is fair. I hope the bugs and glitches about hits registering are fixed as well. I'd quite like to see a good balance of all characters being played, and my nerfs and buffs are a reflections of what characters I see the most, and least respectively.

Yeah... because a tweet provides so much insight... They better read the forums here and not these useless quick opinions on twitter.

Seriously, why is everything decided on Twitter or FB? What's the point of even having sites like this????

In my opinion it is a bit silly that the players have to say what needs to be nerfed. Popcap has the date, we don't.Problem with adding new classes to a game is that the balance will be detroyed, especially when you add 6 new classes at once. Look to World of Warcraft where the PvP got destroyed by all the new classes and it ended up with almost every class could do the same.Since the last patch, Rose is almost gone and Brainz and the scientist are now dominating.Popcap, don't ask us what to nerf, check your data and take your actions From day one it was allready clear that the beam of Brainz has a to long range and its to powerfull. Same for Turbo Twister, it does way to much damage. Together with the huge amount of health it is for the most plants almost impossible to win a 1 vs 1 fight. No need for that.And fix the sunflower please! The scientist has a healing beam, he has an armoured healing station and he can use a healing ball if he wants. He has also sticky balls and a gun fo a lot of damage. He can also blink. And what has the sunflower? A healing beam and an easy to kill potted sunflower. Less mobility and not so much damage. In GW1 it was ok but now is the sunflower a sad healer who is gunmeat.

Limit the scientist tele to 1 instead of 2. Drop Brainz health to 175 and imp to 50. Mechs cannot capture. Id be happy.

Pop cap wants to know the 3 variants to buff/nerf via twitter (link inside)

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Anonymous
10 years ago
If I had to pick my top 3 to buff, it would be

3. Iron Citron: While he's a true GOD among the Characters in Iron mode, I feel like his damage output outside of it is a bit too low
2. Toxic Chomper: He has the look, I have the Rocket Turtle and now the only thing I need is his spray to be on the level of the Power/Fire Chomper to get some kills.
1. Hockey-Star: Because you know that an All-Star is one of the worst Zombies in the game when you can't kill a Sunflower before overheating

As far as nerfing goes, I'd say
3. Electro Brainz: 'nuff said
2. All Imps: Just an HP nerf to punish bad Imp players
1. I'm suprised the Chemist got a range buff anf I'm sure it makes him a bit too good, but he's fine otherwise
Anonymous
10 years ago
i will copy my reply from the other balance threads
Zombies:
super brainz:
needs to have his hp reduced to atleast 175, and remove the spin pull or super armor, this is just a death trap, it makes no sense that he has more hp than the chomper and can do everything the chomper do and more 10x better...
imp:
needs to decrease his hp to 60 and make a limit on active mechs, 1 per team should be good, the way it is we see 3-4 mech at the same time and the plants cant counter that.
Scientist:
also need some nerfs, maybe remove the double teleport to only one and decrease his burst damage.
Plants
Cactus:
needs to be on par with the pirate, make the drone like the parrot and maybe give her a shotgun (spikes) if she shoot without aimimg, her abilities are also weak, she needs a more offensive set.
Corn:
he is good, he just needs more speed or more HP, the allstar is faster than him and has way more HP.
Citron:
needs buffs, he is a tank but the zombie team has no reason to focus on him, they just ignore citron and kill the other plants.
Chomper:
already received some great suggestion in this post/other posts, he needs urgent attention.
Rose:
needs buffs, she is just useless now.
IIINCORRUPTIBLE
10 years ago
Screion said: "
Yeah... because a tweet provides so much insight...
They better read the forums here and not these useless quick opinions on twitter."
This is absolutely correct, but developers really do have to understand that the average person is NOT able to offer the best of feedback...
**Captain American 2 SPOILERS**
Have folks seen Captain America 2? There's a part where Robert Redford, a member of the high council, is talking with the rest of the council... And he basically mentions that if they bend with every type of criticism or negative event, then it is perhaps they themselves who need oversight.
The moral of my point is that you can't modify your game with every little piece of criticism, especially when coming from people who don't know what they're talking about.
PurpleKudzu423
10 years ago
Nerfs:
1-Super Brainz turbo twister
2-Park Ranger reduce stink cloud dmg or duration
3-Chomper spike weed (snares instantly)
Buffs:
1-Rose in general
2-Rugby Star damage
3-Party Characters (all of them)
Anonymous
10 years ago
Mostly agree with Zaheen1337!! With an addition to the Roses, i think its important she need a shorter arcane enigma time, so she cant hide that far to regen hp.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Buff:
1 alien flower
2 hockey allstar
3 all party variants other then brains and Captain

Nerf:
1 electro brains (radius or dmg of arc)
2 bbq corn base shot dmg shold have some tradeoff in dmg for the extra dot
3 zoologist (or scientist in general) should either have reduced movement speed or greater reload time
Anonymous
10 years ago
I picked

Buff - Roses especially Ice Rose - Sunflower (all) - Citron

Nerf: Electro Brainz, Scientist

I think roses are overnerfed

Sunflowers are very weak at moment

Citron need be more tank
Anonymous
10 years ago
since everyone have their own characters.

i'll recommend to "BUFF ALL THE VARIANTS"

and a Promotion sale for Sticker pack 🙂
Anonymous
10 years ago
Buff: cactus (all) more accurate without zooming,
Alien flower-cloud lasts longer and does more damage
chomp thing- 150 health
Nerf: hear the cry of the plants and nerf electro brainz, and fix the thing where he can fire through walls.
commando soldier, nerf crossbow reload
sticky goop- duration
Anonymous
10 years ago
Buff sunflowers. The healing is difficult compared to scientists' because of their non-splash, non-cqc weapons. Nerf Imps, Corn is so hard to hit them, same with sunflower, nerf the stasis grenade range. Nerf Scientists please, yes they have been my favorite character since early gw1 days, but I should not be able to drop Chompers left and right with him. I don't understand why they have more dps than melee classes, Brains spin attack is annoying to deal with but i think he's fine, run more ice variants and he's no longer that hard. Zombies are currently op imo, because its like an unstoppable wall pushing towards plants every game. Mechs being healed by scientist, brains Falcon Kicking with scientist warp, I hate to say it, but front line assaults are just very subpar for plants. The citron shooting at imps moving is a joke. The beam width is too much you cant see. I mean I know I'm not the only one can't hit anything with plants, imps. I mean Kernal Corn vs imps relies on abilities all the time almost. Mechs should not capture bases. Get a party of 12 drakes and call them in at same time to NEVER lose gardens and graveyards, had this happen, what a shameful way to lose. You cannot stop it, so many inefficient counters for plants atm. Plants are bad right now.

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