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daalnnii
9 years ago
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PvZ Heroes Feedback: Pros and Cons

So when i was in the military, after we finished training or a nonroutine mission (even some routine ones) we generally got together for an after action review. That is, what was going right? What co...
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    EA_Andy
    9 years ago

    Hey @daalnnii

    Thanks for posting this - it's an idea I really like and I can send over the results to the PvZ team.

    I'll go ahead and sticky this so we can get a wide set of views. I've also edited the title a bit so it's really obvious what we're looking for 🙂

    Just make sure whether it's a pro or a con to keep things constructive.

    - Andy -

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Anonymous
9 years ago
@Guacodile42 wrote:

2. Sneaky.  Every class is so balanced, but this one...no matter what deck, play style, hero, or class I use, Sneaky wins against me roughly 75% of the time.  Why?  Well, it has no definitive weakness.  Tell me what play style, hero, or class counters Sneaky.  That's right, virtually nothing.  Anti-Hero + Smoke Bomb is such a cheap combo, and due to Stealthy Imp only being an Uncommon and Smoke Bomb only being a Common, EVERY Sneaky player has access to it.  Oh yeah, and Surprise Gargantuar.  Smoosh-Shroom is a 5/4 5-cost Common.  Surprise Gargnatuar is a 5/6 5-cost Common with "Gravestone.  When revealed: Move this zombie.", plus it's a gargantuar.  WHAT?!  Also, Imp decks.  No card disadvantage because of Commander, and no minion disadvantage because of Toxic Waste Imp.  Very balanced.  Also, Deadly in general.  A re-usable free Locust Swarm whenever a zombie with this trait hits a plant.  Perfectly balanced.  And now that Fire Rooster is out, not even mushrooms can defeat it.  Please, EA...if there were a Weed Spray for plants, that would make Sneaky balanced, because so many of its zombies have 2 strength or less.

Phew...long rant.  Anyway, that's all.

Haha, yep.

If I get Super Brainz as an opponent, I rest my finger on my device's home button. If a Ninja is the first thing that is played, I force-quit immediately. They can sit there for the next minute twiddling their thumbs while I play against someone else.

I'm not interested in playing a match where my opponent spends all of their cards in the first 3 turns jumping all over the place.

The first few thousand times playing that deck was enough for me.

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Guacodile42
9 years ago
@GrinningRuiner wrote:
@Guacodile42 wrote:

2. Sneaky.  Every class is so balanced, but this one...no matter what deck, play style, hero, or class I use, Sneaky wins against me roughly 75% of the time.  Why?  Well, it has no definitive weakness.  Tell me what play style, hero, or class counters Sneaky.  That's right, virtually nothing.  Anti-Hero + Smoke Bomb is such a cheap combo, and due to Stealthy Imp only being an Uncommon and Smoke Bomb only being a Common, EVERY Sneaky player has access to it.  Oh yeah, and Surprise Gargantuar.  Smoosh-Shroom is a 5/4 5-cost Common.  Surprise Gargnatuar is a 5/6 5-cost Common with "Gravestone.  When revealed: Move this zombie.", plus it's a gargantuar.  WHAT?!  Also, Imp decks.  No card disadvantage because of Commander, and no minion disadvantage because of Toxic Waste Imp.  Very balanced.  Also, Deadly in general.  A re-usable free Locust Swarm whenever a zombie with this trait hits a plant.  Perfectly balanced.  And now that Fire Rooster is out, not even mushrooms can defeat it.  Please, EA...if there were a Weed Spray for plants, that would make Sneaky balanced, because so many of its zombies have 2 strength or less.

Phew...long rant.  Anyway, that's all.

Haha, yep.

If I get Super Brainz as an opponent, I rest my finger on my device's home button. If a Ninja is the first thing that is played, I force-quit immediately. They can sit there for the next minute twiddling their thumbs while I play against someone else.

I'm not interested in playing a match where my opponent spends all of their cards in the first 3 turns jumping all over the place.

The first few thousand times playing that deck was enough for me.

@GrinningRuiner Brainy, Hearty, and Sneaky are the meta.  Two of these things are tolerable.  One of these is absolute feces.  If your deck doesn't prioritize in early game control with 4x Grave Buster, you may as well concede.

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    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    The sneaky class being strong must be a thing on lower levels only. Gravestones are good, but because of mixed up+pogo, not because of surprise gargantuar lol. you can beat them by playing cheap minions to clog your lanes. shroom for 2 counters ninja on turn 1. i dont think i lost to stealthy imp during the last month either. most high end gravestone decks play line dancer instead anyway.

    on topic: pro: the game seems balanced. there are really strong decks (and cards) but since plants and zombies have their fair share of strong cards, its all cool. tricksters for example seem op, but on the other hand, so is GoW/Dandy or Pineclone. every card has good counters. or they are so expensive that you can beat them with quick decks.

    con: its really boring once you hit ultimate league. there just is nothing to do. you can play around with decks, thats fun, but tbh i dont care if i have 700 or 800 stars or 900. so i just play to get the event cards, but it starts feeling like a chore. give us some goals.

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