Re: PvZ: Heroes - Developer Q&A

This post addresses my 1st and most concerning question.

Hi, I am a relatively experienced hardcore player of your game who has reached ultimate league last August. I have a bunch of friends from ultimate league (over 100 of them internationally), with most of them having all cards, who have the same concern stated below, although may not apply to lower tier players.

This post is to ask for increment of deck limit. My arguments are as follows:

Why do some people NEED more deck slots (written before the update, now is not even 100 but decreased to 90, which is even demeaning)

There is a 100 overall deck limit in the game. In other words, you could only have 100 plants+zombies decks in total saved. As a Hard Core player who reached ultimate league since September 2016, I had no motivation playing the game except for trying out new decks as well as decks built by other players. However, the 100 deck limit has been bothering me for months. Although i only keep decks with >70% win rates on ranked, I still have to delete some nice decks in order to try out new decks to keep my decks below 100. By the time now, I have to take a screenshot of every single deck that i have to temporarily delete to spare space in order to try/play new decks. And every time when i want to use my old decks i have to refer to certain screenshots to build them from scratch, swapping out some decks saved in the game. While you (and some low ranked players) don't believe me that it is possible to have more than 100 decks, i am telling you that 100 is super easy to reach for 20 heroes.

For example, for Chompzilla only, i have already got 6 decks for her.

• pea pod father deck

• heal pepper MD deck

• party thyme bonus attack deck

• strikethrough deck

• flower deck

• tempo deck

In our community, I know that many other top tier players have the same issues as I do including FryEmUp.

You might wonder why I am trying new decks despite these inconveniences. What's the point of using an old deck that always win repeatedly? I am Ultimate anyways so i don't care about ranking up. Trying new decks is the only motivation for me to play this game right now. However, the 100 deck limit is discouraging. If this inconvenience continues, I believe many top tier players including myself will quit the game as we have lost our last motivation of playing the game.

The deck limit should be raised up to at least 200 or unlimited to ease players.

Why would people from lower ranks also support (or at least not to object the petition) even if THEY do not have the immediate NEED yet, aka. "I don't need that much decks why shouldn't I object the petition?"

I can see most comments were on whether they 'need' it or not. First, let's define 'need'.

There are basically 2 types of players:

1. you play only for winning in (ranked) matches (so you only play your best decks)

2. you are playing as a fan who wants to dig into every corner of the game to enjoy the full gaming experience

The first type of players only play for winning in matches. This type of player are those that will very likely greatly decrease their play time or even stop playing once they have reached ultimate league. As their aim is merely winning matches and to reach higher leagues, they get burnt out soon as their aim has fulfilled. In this case, this type of player for sure doesn't 'need' more than 1 deck that has the highest win rate, eg. professor p2w.

The second type of player do not play for merely winning matches. Their aim is to have fun with the game including building new decks, creating new strategies and testing them out despite one deck may not beat the other. This type of player will continue playing even after they have reached Ultimate league until they have tested all possible decks in the game. They would be the group of players that spend most time in the game with full support and are always willing to spend real money on the game once some exclusive cards are out like hot date and red stingers. This case, they will for sure 'need' more (than 90) deck slots for collecting and saving their new decks and strategies. If not, it would be a big trouble and annoyance for them to test their decks and create new strategies. (They have to screenshot and delete decent decks in order to test new decks frequently.) For this reason, I believe many (potential) hardcore players including myself will quit this game soon due to the mentioned annoyance and shift to others which are more player-friendly and serious in the future development of the game. In fact, only counting those that I know, couple of players out there who have similar ambitions as I did have already left the game after reaching Ultimate league for 3-4 months for this reason.

It is up to EA's decision that which type(s) of player they want to retain, 1) only short term amateur card game players who get on to their phones and open up the game occasionally during their free time or 2) the one mentioned above AND those who are really ambitious and aspired to participate in a serious tournament. It is up to EA's decision on the development direction of the game, whether to make this like a casual little time killer for periodic players to play on their phones or a more serious strategy card game with a huge, long-term fan base and of course, much more development opportunities.

In fact,   the increment of deck limit benefits all players regardless of ranks for 3 very simple reasons:

1. There is absolutely no downside to have more slots to save decks, it's always better for players to have more slots

2. some may not need it now, but you might need it later.  
It is obvious that reasons like "We/I/you don't need that much" or "there are other worse things in the game that need to be fixed" are insufficient to contribute to explain why players would object the increment of deck limit.

"We/I/you don't need that much" - No matter I/you need it or not, this does not suffice the argument that the increment of deck limit should be objected as this is a neutral reason. Simply put, you can say it DOES NOT AFFECT you but this is not a reason to OBJECT the petition. Assume I REALLY don't need that much (which is false of course), then the increment of deck limit will have no effect(+0) on myself but it will have positive effects on those who really need that much(+N), while NO PLAYER will experience a negative effect(-N) from the petition. So, no effect on some people and positive effect on others results in an overall positive effect (+0+N=+N). Simply put, for those who do not experience any effect on increment of deck limit, you are not asked/forced/called/urged to support this petition but please at least do not object it for the sake that it has freaking no (negative) effect on you.

"there are other worse things in the game that need to be fixed" - Does any part of my partition mentioned this problem has to be fixed INSTEAD of any other problems? No. It isn't the worst/most urgent thing to be dealt with doesn't mean it is not a bad thing that needs to be urged to change. Still, it is for sure a bad thing for the players, especially those who supports the game from the very beginning.