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Re: Reasonable balance changes list (wip)


@xXFrozenChromeXx wrote:

Suggested Changes List

PeaShooter

Gaitling damage resistance 50% 33%
Increased Gaitling de-root time by 0.50 seconds
Super Pea Jump cooldown 25 20

Electro Peashooter
Explosion damage: 30 24
Decrease Ammo Slot 8 5

Plasma
Charged Damage Splash 30 25



Roses

Increased Health: 100 125

If a target has been goatified or time snared, he can't be crowd controlled again by any other Roses resources for the next seconds.

Homing removed for every Rose except Party Rose

Party Rose

- damage reduced by 1

Rose, Druid, Ice, Fire and Nec Rose
-
increased projectile speed and splash radius
- Moderately increase projectile speed charged attack for Fire and Nec Rose
- Roses can jump while using charged attack
- Drastically decreased Roses movespeed while jumping during charged attack
- Decrease Ice Rose Charged Attack Damage by 10
- Decrease Fire Rose Charged Attack Damage by 10



Citron
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drastically decreased Peel Shield duration (it only lasts few seconds)
- increased Peel Shield 75 125
- drastically increased Citron Peel Shield Cast Time
- moderately reduced Empeach duration against all zombies except Mechs
- Slightly increased Empeach damage and ticks
(Peel shield cast time, is when is unable to shoot after Peel shield has been casted)

Electro Citron
- Drastically reduced damage for 2nd and 3rd charged attack level.



Frozen Citron
-
Slighly reduced freeze rate at any range
- Moderately reduced freeze rate at very high range (if possible) Or drastically reduced ranged damage at very high range
- improved overheat to shoots longer
- if both freeze rate and ranged damage get nerfed, give him splash radius like default citron

Sunflower

Metal Flower
-
Increase accuracy and reticle



Corn
-
Decreased Big Bad Butter cast time animation
- Moderately Increased Big Bad Butter detonation time (0,75- 1,5 seconds seconds)
- Increased Big Bad Butter splash radius ( proportionally increased considering detonation time)
- Moderately increased Husk Hop Cooldown
- After using Husk Hop, Corn is unable to shoots after he reaches the ground for 0,25-0.5 seconds because the shock of the hurt


(big bad butter cast time animation is the time required for the butter to fall from the sky)



Imps
-
Moderately decreased gravity grenade duration for every plant except Citron
- Slighly Increased Gravity Grenade cooldown
- After Gravity Grenade reached the ground, it explodes and activate after 0.5 seconds
- Gravity grenade launching animation slower
- Being trapped by a Gravity Grenade will make you immune to another Gravity Grenade for the next seconds
- Mech Cooldown has been removed, now it's a bar that has to been filled upon actions like kills/shared kills or assists
- Impkata new effect: Scoring kills/assist or shared kills with Impkata will moderately fill your Mech Bar
- Scoring a kill/shared kill with Impkata will grant Imp a further reload and damage upgrade for 12 seconds. Scoring more kills/shared kills will not make this buff stackable.



Z7 Imp
- moderately reduce close damage
- moderately reduced Z7 Mech damage


Default Imp
-
moderately reduced Default Imp Mech damage

Little Drake
-
Drake Swoop animation is considerably much slower

Pylon Imp
-
Drag Race animation slighly slower


I crossed out what I think will ruin the character. 

Here are some things that would make a better balanced character

Pea gattling rate of fire slightly decreased

Plasma pea charged shots take more than 1 ammo (1->1, 2->3, 3->6)

Normal rose ammo reduced back to 20

Druid rose ammo buffed back to 35

Imps gravity grenade no longer traps you in the center but lifts you up where you currently are but still cannot move. 

Impkata no longer has 20% damage resistance because his hit box turns smaller

6 Replies

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Don't you like the Shield Citron changes?

    The reason i want these changes:
    - drastically decreased Peel Shield duration (it only lasts few seconds)
    - increased Peel Shield 75 125

    it's because i feel like "peel" shield is more used like an extra hp, instead of being really like a "peel shield".
    I want Peel shield actually used to Peel people, used to conquest and defend gardens and graveyards, and not only as a 1vs1 solution.
    That's why i want Peel Shield to last few, you have to activate it when you want to go ham and take/defend a point, and the activation should cost more time to activate, so you don't gain a real 1vs1 advantage, but more like a stratetic one

    I know that removing homing will ruin the character, but Rose is problematic, he takes minimal skills and rewards too much players, i want her to gain a buff (hp and stuff) but homing removed because i want to increase the skill-cap

  • @xXFrozenChromeXx

    Hackers already revealed an alternate peel shield ability with more lives and shorter time the shield is up. 

    Also the rose is one of the strongest characters and especial the normal rose. The 30 bullets and 9 damage and 10 with the upgrade really makes it difficult to fight. 98% of people don't know how to use the rose. Its all ability spam. 

  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    9 years ago

    Butter barrage radius was just nerfed in the latest update.

    Butter Barrage

     

    Radius of airstrike pattern decreased from 8 to 5

     

    Dev Team Notes: The Butter Barrage has always been a very powerful ability due to its impressive area denial. We've decreased the radius of the pattern to counteract this, forcing players to be more accurate with placing their airstrikes.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    ah okay i didn't know,, both of them

  • I doubt PopCap would nerf Husk Hop by adding the 'stunned' effect after using it. It would be wonderful if they could instead not let the abilities get refreshed for respawning. Pirate/Cactus Drones do not get refreshed. Why not do the same to Husk Hop, Turbo Twister, and Impkata?
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    that could be a good answer too, anyway, there is already a stun effect on husk hop, i want just to get increased by little more

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