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Re: sadly its true popcap chompers need nerfed bad

The only issue here is some of you lack the insight to deal with the Chompers, so you ask the devs to do the work for you.  Chompers can barely streak now as is and you are all whining about how fast it digest.  Big whoop.  After it swallows you, what do you care?  You're unrevivable to begin with.  It seems like the only way some of you can KO a chomper is if it is digesting one of your teammates.  No matter how fast it digest, it still has to get close to targets that can kite it or hop on a car.  The only way the Chomper can be OP is if it grows wings.

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  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Chompers do have range actually, if u haven't realized already players are stuck in goop for around 6,382 seconds, making it so any chomper can easily walk or burrow up to you and ur dead even if he's 10 miles away... All u chomper fan boys say but omg super brainz has a beam, well I don't remember his beam locking u in place so he can slowly walk up and kill u with ease. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall super brainz having a 1 hit kill move with invincibility, instead he has to run in hope for the best as he gets attacked by the whole team, so first he uses his beam to damage his opponents. And I don't want to hear "but omg u can avoid burrow" because no matter what he gets u, if ur a super brainz jumping, he shows up mid air and gets u, if ur a scientist warping, he still gets, if ur a foot soldier using rocket jump/leap, he still gets you for some stupid reason. The time ur able to chomp someone is totally unbalanced, because if ur in the air, u shouldn't be getting eaten by choppers up their...
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Ur point being???? Also I like both sides...

  • @myles_finegan10 wrote:
    Chompers do have range actually, if u haven't realized already players are stuck in goop for around 6,382 seconds, making it so any chomper can easily walk or burrow up to you and ur dead even if he's 10 miles away

    Isn't that what Goop is DESIGNED to do?

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Sure,goop is "designed" to hit u from half way across the map and keep u stuck there until it can walk over and kill u...

  • @IronCatFish47 wrote:

    The only issue here is some of you lack the insight to deal with the Chompers, so you ask the devs to do the work for you.  Chompers can barely streak now as is and you are all whining about how fast it digest.  Big whoop.  After it swallows you, what do you care?  You're unrevivable to begin with.  It seems like the only way some of you can KO a chomper is if it is digesting one of your teammates.  No matter how fast it digest, it still has to get close to targets that can kite it or hop on a car.  The only way the Chomper can be OP is if it grows wings.


    1 THE DIGESTION UPGRADE ALLOWS FOR 1 SECOND DIGESTION MEANING HE CAN CHAIN EAT PEOPLE (* cap lock im not retyping this)

    2 his goop recharges way to quick again allowing for mass chain eating coupled with the 1 sec digestion

    3 invunerable during the eating a zombie animation what * character is immune to ANY damage while in an animation? none thats what aka op you *

    4 i have hundreds of hours in this game and i didnt have a single issue with chompers until the buff to there cooldown timers and digestion so yeah theres an obvious issue dumb *


  • @myles_finegan10 wrote:
    Chompers do have range actually, if u haven't realized already players are stuck in goop for around 6,382 seconds, making it so any chomper can easily walk or burrow up to you and ur dead even if he's 10 miles away... All u chomper fan boys say but omg super brainz has a beam, well I don't remember his beam locking u in place so he can slowly walk up and kill u with ease. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall super brainz having a 1 hit kill move with invincibility, instead he has to run in hope for the best as he gets attacked by the whole team, so first he uses his beam to damage his opponents. And I don't want to hear "but omg u can avoid burrow" because no matter what he gets u, if ur a super brainz jumping, he shows up mid air and gets u, if ur a scientist warping, he still gets, if ur a foot soldier using rocket jump/leap, he still gets you for some stupid reason. The time ur able to chomp someone is totally unbalanced, because if ur in the air, u shouldn't be getting eaten by choppers up their...

    this too i forgot all about this bs too

  • IronCatFish47's avatar
    IronCatFish47
    10 years ago

    It is clear now more than ever that we have players who can only KO a Chomper when it is digesting.  The goop cooldown was actually increased months ago along with the UniChomper's warp.  It doesn't need to increased again.  I think you should practice against the AI.

    2 and a half zombies (best team in the game)  vs Chompers.

    You can stand on something and shoot the Chompers.  Then you will see how mighty the Chomper is.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    It's kinda hard to jump on something and shoot him because he can just goop u and then as u wait those 6,382 seconds until u can finally move again he's already 1 shoring u from using his chomp which by the way is insanely messed up, too many times have I been directly facing a chomper only for him to swallow me somehow the way u get swallowed when he gets u from behind. I also find it funny how he was totally balanced in the first game when he had 150 HP instead of 175 HP sooooo

  • @myles_finegan10 wrote:
    It's kinda hard to jump on something and shoot him because he can just goop u and then as u wait those 6,382 seconds until u can finally move again he's already 1 shoring u from using his chomp which by the way is insanely messed up, too many times have I been directly facing a chomper only for him to swallow me somehow the way u get swallowed when he gets u from behind. I also find it funny how he was totally balanced in the first game when he had 150 HP instead of 175 HP sooooo

    What exactly should a Chomper be able to do when he spots a target?  Its natural for them to goop you so you don't escape.  If you were really facing a Chomper, it could not eat you.  I think you rotated the wrong way against the Chomper and it ate you.

  • The only way a Chomper can swallow you from the front is if you're trapped in Spikeweed- and on that subject I will concede that having a Chomper spit out a Spikeweed under your feet to instantly trap you so that it can go for the Chomp is a lousy way to get KO'ed, especially since Spikeweed in GW1 has a fraction of a second "activation" as it grows which prevented this sort of Cheat Shot.

    A Chomper doesn't need to be directly behind you to Chomp; the red Chomping indicator will appear starting about when they've circled you about 3/4 of the way so it's a pretty wide allowance and having your back against the wall is no guarantee of safety. Yes it stinks to get Gooped at close range by a Chomper and not be able to turn fast enough to keep it off your back while you return fire but that's what Goop is for and if this keeps happening to you then you need to work harder at knowing where the Chompers are and keeping enough distance between so that you have a good chance of KO'ing it with weapons fire before it can reach you.

  • linger4606's avatar
    linger4606
    10 years ago
    Chompers don't need a nerf. Learn strategies on how to play your class of zombie.
  • Boolerex's avatar
    Boolerex
    10 years ago

    The only fix needed for chomper is fixing goop turning speed for console (it have sticky goop turning rate for some reason and vise-versa,the same thing happen if you use a gamepad in pc).

  • yes cause being able to lay down a spike weed while biting your opponent then being able to instantly eat them while in it no matter what direction there facing and lets not forget about being able to be eaten while gooped no matter which direction youre facing isnt broken what so * ever huh yep such a balanced class dip*s learn some REAL balanced gameplay chomper is a stealth class like knifing in a fps game he is ment to be sneaky not run up to you spike weed your * eat you digest in 1 second goop another guy eat them spike weed another eat them ect before finally dying 

    if you think this is balance then i guess people in cod should get the nuke perk in only a 3 kill streak huh you * idiots the only reason you all dont want him nerfed is because you all know hes op and want it that way

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    I'll just copy and paste what I have said before in a different thread, "Chomper is a melee class, which means you can easily use your movement ability to get away, like rocket jump/leap, or any other movement ability. You may complain about the goop, but you should be facing the Chomper while you are shooting so the Chomper doesn't eat you, then you want to use your movement ability to get away. Burrow is a tricky one since you can get eaten from the sky, but the only reason is because the lag allows to do so, but that can't be changed. But you should be using your movement ability. Note the word I have been using for most of these sentences. MOVEMENT ABILITY. The one of the reasons why people get chomped by the Chomper, is because they use their movement abilities to get to the point quickly. But if you do that, you are in a great risk if there are chompers nearby, since Chompers pick the zombies that use their movement ability to get to the point quickly. So the zombies get chomped by Chompers since they have no way to escape. So really, Chompers don't really need a nerf, considering that Chompers have weaknesses that can be exploited. But I will agree, if there are at least 3 Chompers, it may make the game a little harder, but if your team has good teamwork, you can win."


  • @panaman14 wrote:

    I'll just copy and paste what I have said before in a different thread, "Chomper is a melee class, which means you can easily use your movement ability to get away, like rocket jump/leap, or any other movement ability. You may complain about the goop, but you should be facing the Chomper while you are shooting so the Chomper doesn't eat you, then you want to use your movement ability to get away. Burrow is a tricky one since you can get eaten from the sky, but the only reason is because the lag allows to do so, but that can't be changed. But you should be using your movement ability. Note the word I have been using for most of these sentences. MOVEMENT ABILITY. The one of the reasons why people get chomped by the Chomper, is because they use their movement abilities to get to the point quickly. But if you do that, you are in a great risk if there are chompers nearby, since Chompers pick the zombies that use their movement ability to get to the point quickly. So the zombies get chomped by Chompers since they have no way to escape. So really, Chompers don't really need a nerf, considering that Chompers have weaknesses that can be exploited. But I will agree, if there are at least 3 Chompers, it may make the game a little harder, but if your team has good teamwork, you can win."


    and you seem to be yet another * wit that doesnt understand that 

    1 digestion is WAAAAAAY to quick

    2 being able to deplay a spikeweed under you and instantly 1 hit ko you in any direction is * and makes characters that have to get up close or there abilities that get them close like brainz scientist and all star useless 

    3 *ing about peoples movement abilities again means * if they just deploy a quick spike weed under you and/or goop your *

    4 you seem to be too damn dense to comprehend the * that is so * obvious with this class or need i start posting youtube video montages of all the * i alone have gone thru to get my point drivin into your thick skull idiot

    5 chomper is a stealth character not a * run up and ko you instantly character like he currently is now 

    6 stop riding the * fanboy train and start looking at how blatently OP the chomper is currently with goop digestion and spikeweed its * stupid how broke he is right now i should know im using a none promoted chomper getting 50 kills a match with 30+ kill streaks what the * does that tell you maybe if he was mastered that would be normal MAYBE but doing this * when he doesnt even have his first upgrade that is the very definition of broken you idiots!

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    1. I have no idea how much Chomper's digestion with upgrades, but I know that it is around 3 seconds for digestion to end, which is enough time to use a ability to take the vanquish.

    2. Spikeweed may get you instantly, but it only last for 3 seconds. Also, Scientists (except for some), Super Brainz, and All-Star ( I have no idea why you said him) have ranged attacks to defeat them, Brainz with beam and Super Ball, Scientist with the primary shot (although it does less damage than close range) and Explody Ball, and All-Star with his primary shot (still don't know why you said him.).

    3. Goop lasts for four seconds, if you keep on shooting Chomper, you should defeat him if he's mid - low health. And it's true, you use your movement ability to move. That means you can get out of sticky situations. Including aganst Chomper! WOW!

    4. Whoa! Calm down man. I barely even met you and you are saying insults at me. That's not cool man. You are now becoming more toxic than the average LOL player, who are pretty toxic.

    5. Certain characters can be played differently, like Scientist's can be a Assassin, or a healer. So essentaly, you are saying that Scientist can only be a healer. Chomper can be a Run In (which is crazy to do) or be stealthy.

    6. Oh ok. Just because I'm trying to say my opinion, when I clearly said that 3 or 4 Chompers can be hard to deal with, I'm immediately in the "Fanboy train", when I am simply stating how I feel, and I have mixed feelings about him. Also, let me just say this, most of the fanbase is kids playing the game, that means that they won't have a clue on what's going on. Also, Citron currently is the strongest plants in the game, not Chomper, so if you want to have on a plant, hate on Citron not Chomper.

  • IronCatFish47's avatar
    IronCatFish47
    10 years ago

    @nightshadow989 wrote:

    yes cause being able to lay down a spike weed while biting your opponent then being able to instantly eat them while in it no matter what direction there facing and lets not forget about being able to be eaten while gooped no matter which direction youre facing isnt broken what so * ever huh yep such a balanced class dip*s learn some REAL balanced gameplay chomper is a stealth class like knifing in a fps game he is ment to be sneaky not run up to you spike weed your * eat you digest in 1 second goop another guy eat them spike weed another eat them ect before finally dying 

    if you think this is balance then i guess people in cod should get the nuke perk in only a 3 kill streak huh you * idiots the only reason you all dont want him nerfed is because you all know hes op and want it that way


    Just exactly how do you think the weed should operate hmm?  Game has been out too long for players not to know how to deal with Chompers.  An ability that requires you to be near your opponent that is already shooting at you needs to be nerfed? Then you say the Chomper isn't allowed to run up to you.  Clearly you aren't thinking rationally and assume the Chomper has to be played completely linear and predictable so you can make excuses.  Unreal. 
     
     

  • @panaman14 wrote:

    1. I have no idea how much Chomper's digestion with upgrades, but I know that it is around 3 seconds for digestion to end, which is enough time to use a ability to take the vanquish.

    2. Spikeweed may get you instantly, but it only last for 3 seconds. Also, Scientists (except for some), Super Brainz, and All-Star ( I have no idea why you said him) have ranged attacks to defeat them, Brainz with beam and Super Ball, Scientist with the primary shot (although it does less damage than close range) and Explody Ball, and All-Star with his primary shot (still don't know why you said him.).

    3. Goop lasts for four seconds, if you keep on shooting Chomper, you should defeat him if he's mid - low health. And it's true, you use your movement ability to move. That means you can get out of sticky situations. Including aganst Chomper! WOW!

    4. Whoa! Calm down man. I barely even met you and you are saying insults at me. That's not cool man. You are now becoming more toxic than the average LOL player, who are pretty toxic.

    5. Certain characters can be played differently, like Scientist's can be a Assassin, or a healer. So essentaly, you are saying that Scientist can only be a healer. Chomper can be a Run In (which is crazy to do) or be stealthy.

    6. Oh ok. Just because I'm trying to say my opinion, when I clearly said that 3 or 4 Chompers can be hard to deal with, I'm immediately in the "Fanboy train", when I am simply stating how I feel, and I have mixed feelings about him. Also, let me just say this, most of the fanbase is kids playing the game, that means that they won't have a clue on what's going on. Also, Citron currently is the strongest plants in the game, not Chomper, so if you want to have on a plant, hate on Citron not Chomper.


    1 * no digestion upgrades and took 2 seconds for it to end without upgrades giving enough time for me to combo chain people to death

    2 spike weed is deployed UNDER you while you are fighting the chomper for melee characters or people like all star who sprint tackle super brainz gets close to melee deploy spike weed spike weed hits chomper insta kills

    3 goop someone burrow eaten or get into melee range goop and eat in ANY DIRECTION not from behind like its supposed to

    4 if the boot fits bud if you are too dense to understand that chomper is op then be prepared to be called exactly what you are

    5 scientist IS a healer thats like saying sunflower should have a shotgun spread and do 50 damage per shot but she doesnt and the moment someone mentions giving her such an ability they get shat on but oh god forbid you say the same about the scientist being on the sunflowers level hypocrites

    6 again bud if the boot fits you seem to think the chomper is ok meaning you OBVIOUSLY are refusing to aknowledge the blantantly obvious overpowered spike weed combo and chomber being able to eat ANYONE in a spikeweed or goop in a 360 degree radius NOT 60 degrees aka the * BACK

    again i dont get massive kill streaks and total kills from just "playing" the chomper you know a class is overpowered when i can get 70+ kills on a lvl THREE chomper with no previous promotions if you are gonna cry for a nerf for citron and bbq corn all of which obviously do NOT need any more nerfs as they are fine as is then you also have to acknowledge the * that is the chomper class's easily exploitable skill set


  • @IronCatFish47 wrote:

    @nightshadow989 wrote:

    yes cause being able to lay down a spike weed while biting your opponent then being able to instantly eat them while in it no matter what direction there facing and lets not forget about being able to be eaten while gooped no matter which direction youre facing isnt broken what so * ever huh yep such a balanced class dip*s learn some REAL balanced gameplay chomper is a stealth class like knifing in a fps game he is ment to be sneaky not run up to you spike weed your * eat you digest in 1 second goop another guy eat them spike weed another eat them ect before finally dying 

    if you think this is balance then i guess people in cod should get the nuke perk in only a 3 kill streak huh you * idiots the only reason you all dont want him nerfed is because you all know hes op and want it that way


    Just exactly how do you think the weed should operate hmm?  Game has been out too long for players not to know how to deal with Chompers.  An ability that requires you to be near your opponent that is already shooting at you needs to be nerfed? Then you say the Chomper isn't allowed to run up to you.  Clearly you aren't thinking rationally and assume the Chomper has to be played completely linear and predictable so you can make excuses.  Unreal. 
     
     

    you wanna know how he should be fixed?

    1 no more insta kill spike weed deploying bs in otherwords no more being able to trap people in melee range with spike weed and insta eat in ANY direction

    2 goop is in the same boat being able to eat me from the * front is NOT what this chomper was able to do in the first game so why now oh i know why cause babies like you

    3 more ways for zombies to defend themselves from a chompers insta ko its one thing to be snuk up on and eaten LIKE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING its quite another to sprint tackle into a spike weed he JUST  put down in your path walk up to you and eat you thats * and you know it

    4 your turn speed should also be slightly increased while gooped if hes going to be able to 1 hit ko you in ANY direction no matter what at least give the player the ability to get some shots in and maybe kill the *!

    and 5 you all cry that citron is too op while i know for a fact thats * you all just want a scape goat to keep chomper from getting the nerf he requires

    its pretty amazing chomper was only a huge issue AFTER all this bs buffs he got such as WAAAAAAAAY to quick digestion time to start with allowing him to chain eat zombies again last i checked chomper is a STEALTH class not a freakin 1 hit ko assult class it even says it in the loading screens and i quote

    " a good chomper is one who is stealthy and sneaks up on there pray" or something to that effect right now this is NOT the chomper running out into crowds with 2 or 3 chompers spawn killing people is what he is now

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