Re: Skill based matchmaking is not filling up lobbies

I know those max ranks guys. They like to stick together, and they smack everything one their path, they can be pretty annoying.

I got into an intense battle with them after I ambush and dance to one of them, then suddenly become a gang/group attack, plus they spy you up (everybody is looking for you and inform others where you are) and ignore everything else to bring you down.

SBM should split them apart so they can't merge to one team.

@PC20XX in a case like that it is time to switch rooms, as it stands right now we cannot switch rooms we just get put right back in the same room.

I agree with you on your case it does get annoying at times when you have a whole group that does this.  If everyone in the room just bails on that game

they would all have to leave and try to start filling up a new lobby which takes time.

After several frustrating matches against tiny teams comprised of various cancerous players, I tried something new last night - or, at least new since the SBM came online.  

I sometimes like to play on my wife's account.  It is refreshing to be a "nobody" instead of being marked out in the lobby as a max rank player.  I am what I like to call a medium skill player.  I typically make about 1/3 the vanquish numbers as my friends I play with.  So, I'm not exactly being a pool shark when I play this account.  I'm still in the middle of the lobby afterwards, sometimes with one or two of the minor boasts, like revives or assists.

I haven't played on this account for a few weeks.  So around midnight, I logged on to that account and started up the portal.  Lo and behold!  I was put in an almost full lobby of players of various ranks from baby blue to 12 or so.  There may have been one or two in the 20s or 30s.  It was fantastic!  Just like the old days.  Several of these players were much more skilled than I, as I was hoping, some around my skill, plus a batch of noobs.  And I got to play a couple rounds of turf that were actually fun.  Both of these games went all the way to the end, and the teams were actually being teams, not a bunch of lone wolves racking up their streaks.  Gesturing at each other after point caps, following each other to help with the teleports, healing and reviving.  A breath of fresh air.

I truly hope that it is realized soon what a failure this so-called matchmaking is.  It's ruining the game for a large part of the user base and it needs to go.

Can you try out the boss hunt with your wife account as well to see how is being paired?

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@asukojo wrote:

Can you try out the boss hunt with your wife account as well to see how is being paired?

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I'm not a glutton for punishment!

@pandareno1999

Yeah, I enjoy playing with newer players rather than other high ranks. That's why I'm on Garden Ops more often now.

I was impressed by the lobby (in the pics below) I got put in with for this one Boss Hunt run on Normal. It was pretty sweet to have won with 'em.

@asukojo

I got put in this lobby after 13 runs with ranks 700 and above. So, I think there is a Skill-Based setup somewhere for the boss hunts.

I just played a few Team Vanquish matches in a high rank lobby. After a few rounds, it became quite empty. With the former matchmaking system, I would have simply switched lobbies and played in a different, full one. But now, I have to stop playing or play a different mode when this happens, because I know the game would put me in the same lobby again and again because of my rank. Yesterday, I even restarted the game three times until I landed on a different server (noticeable by the ping), so that I could join a different lobby.

Afterwards I played an ultra-laggy Turf Takeover match. Unfortunately the more high ranked players are in a lobby, the laggier it gets. Just another problem that is caused or in this case worsened by the new matchmaking.

@pandareno1999

Playing on a lower ranked account is probably the only way to bring back the Garden Warfare feeling. Unfortunately I would have to start all over again. Unless they don't remove SBMM my motivation will probably fade out soon.

https://twitter.com/JA_Wiebe/status/969356140587843584

One thing they should apply urgently is the pairing of squads. That is to say that if I enter the portal with a squad, the first thing to do is find another squadron with a level similar to mine.

Lately I have played as a team with my friends (after all GW2 is to play with your friends) and in one occasion we played another group with the same ability as ours. The game was very cardiac and to win we had to play even better as a team.

Perhaps with that correction the multiplayer would feel more level.

I had interesting results tonight.  I entered a game with DerTuefel1 and his wife, level 3000 or 4000 something.  The turf lobby got nasty so we switched to mixed mode, and eventually somehow it was down to us versus a complete column of baby blues, evenly matched number wise.  And as it turned out, skill wise too, at least as far as the numbers showed.  We had a run of fun games.

I also played on my wife's account closer to 1 AM, and I found a bunch of fun games against an array of levels, but not exceeding 10 or so.

Once again this weekend decided to try the Mystery Portal, at first it was good the room was full.  After about 5 or 6 games we had 4 vs 3 and never filled 

up after that. The games were taking almost 20 minutes to complete and you would only end up back in this very same room if you left!  This system is very flawed and has ruined the best part of the game!  Playing with new people and just having fun.  

I know you are trying to do something for the game but to me this is not it.  I am taking a long break as it stands right now.

I've been having the same experience. Makes getting the 90 stars a real drag. The system did seem to work for Boss Hunt, it's too bad they can't somehow limit it to just boss hunt. Honestly, even in a brand new game with thousands of players I'm not sure this is a good idea. GW as a series is far from competitive with all of the balancing issues and bugs. So to add a competitive match making system just seems pointless.

Even then, the deciding factor is rank. I can say I am moderate at best even though I am max rank. Just because I played with a character until it was mastered doesn't inherently mean I am good with it. At least for me this has lead to me getting into lobbies where I am on the ground most of the time. I can only stand so much of that before I give up for the day. (This all assumes I'm not dealing with someone abusing a bug, that only makes it that much worse.)

At least for now it is limited to only Mystery Portal and that only requires 90 stars per week. (Any more is optional, and outside boss hunt usually worse than normal TT.)

Tip - I found that playing the portal early (Thu - Fri) and playing during earlier hours (afternoon vs. evening) led to pretty good lobbies.  Playing at night was a drag.