@Moltaiverse Agreed. Doing the Spooky Squash or the Yeti King with a team of randoms is very difficult to achieve. I have managed to complete this elite boss before, but it's still very difficult. Luckily I play mostly in split-screen so I don't find this as hard, because I have better team communication. But, I think that the developers should bring boss hunts back from GW2 and put the Elite Yeti and Spooky Squash (also known as Pumpkin Squash) back into there. 😃
The current state of Ops is largely without challenge for the veteran PvZ players in the community.
The Pumpkin Squash and Yeti Elite Bosses are the two things in Ops which actually requires the team to work together and to understand the mechanics. With a team which simply knows what to do, or which can acknowledge simple “follow me” and “stay together” expressions and figure things out both Bosses are easily defeated with only moderate effort.
Nerfing either as a crutch for players who can’t be bothered to learn the mechanic or follow directions would be a disappointment for all of us who already find the bulk of Ops disappointingly easy.
Aye, the worst part is trying to get some people to cooperate. I've had pretty good luck overall, seeing new people catch on quickly is always nice, but just like boss hunts in GW2, some people either don't pay attention, don't care, or are intentionally sinking it. I've not seen the intentional one more than a couple of times thankfully (as far as I can tell anyway), but lots of the not paying attention one.
Just last week we had an elite Disco Zombie boss and 3 of the 4 of us went right to the gramophone almost immediately whereas our 4th player was all over the place until finally catching on. To be sure, I appreciate those that may not know what to do but eventually get it and help. When I used to run lots of group content in MMOs it could get pretty nasty to new people which I find counterproductive. How are they supposed to catch on or even care if you just berate them? I have no such sympathy for those that intentionally cause us to fail, but a lot for those that are earnestly trying. In a game that has to have a community to thrive, I don't want to scare people off!
@Iron_Guard8
Yes, its difficult with new folk who haven't quite got the hang of the whole thing and don't realise the importance of getting these stages done swiftly.
We all need time to get the hang of it.... much like the boss hunts in GW2... I have nightmares about doing them.... always had to do them with randoms and rarely did it go well 🤨
hahahaha remember when the wrong person would eat the candy in the Squash hunt, and some did it more than once 😃😃😃
Of course. it would be very helpful if Popcap provided some instructions for these things rather than relying on the forums and community videos etc to teach people 🤨
And in Bfn we do occasionally get those folk who insist on grabbing the buff thingymajig and then refuse to stand where eveybody can get use of the buff or jump about like crazy things so that nobody can stay in the buff zone ... that's a bit irritating and can lose you the match like with that imp the other night 🤔🙂 I have had that happen a few times when there was a much more suitable character to hold the buff.
@asabaida Ah yes, the buff holder should generally be someone with high health too so it doesn't get lost easily and I also try to take care of all the adds with the buffed weapon damage so we don't get swarmed. I failed a GW2 squash hunt on crazy once when I was playing toxic brainz and my friend was a scientist, we had the squash down so the next candy run would easily vanquish it but I was at very low health so we were holding off while he healed me so it wasn't lost immediately and an impatient foot soldier grabbed it and fell over quickly so we lost that one. We were NOT happy as that would have been our first crazy win, luckily we got it later.
I also owe you an apology for one of the elite bosses we had when I was an all-star with the buff and accidentally charged the boss once which didn't help as the rest of the team were out of the zone. >.<
As a public service announcement, if you're holding the buff ability, please don't stand too close to the elite boss, especially the squash. That PBAoE stun is murder on our damage output!
@Moltaiverse Thanks for the kind words! Are you on PC? That's where I spend my days in Neighborville. Of course cross-play would make that less of an issue!
@Iron_Guard8
Owe me an apology... dont be daft... no apologies necessary at all, ever... tis just a game and I had great fun the other night 😃 oh wait was that last night 🤔😃😃😃
@Moltaiverse
Yes as @Iron_Guard8 says, we are both on PC... if you are on PC and would like to join us then you would be very welcome 😃 and we will beat that big fat orange squash 😃
@realitysquared It's always good to see people catch on and win. That's part of the issue with Yeti and Squash just as you point out, they're more difficult to deal with in the first place and learning them on the fly almost guarantees a loss to these 2 elite bosses. I've found squash to be slightly easier than yeti, but both have been the vast majority of my Ops failures, which are pretty rare.
