I just wish she had some unique abilities that played towards her Vampiric strengths.
It wouldn't be that hard to implement, just have her tackle someone, leech onto them and the rest is history. Ok maybe not have it unrevivable, but it should be a OHKO. A Scientist is warping in on you in close range ready to get the jump on you, surprise it with your own gruesome attack.
I don't see this being a bad thing for this Sunflower.
Vampire Flower is already the most powerful flower. She doesn't need a buff. If you know what you are doing the Vanquish Boast and even Streak Boast is yours.
@Screion wrote:Vampire Flower is already the most powerful flower. She doesn't need a buff. If you know what you are doing the Vanquish Boast and even Streak Boast is yours.
....no she's not. 75 HP and her life leech doesn't apply when she's being attacked. Vampire is the worst variant for her.
@Screion wrote:Vampire Flower is already the most powerful flower. She doesn't need a buff. If you know what you are doing the Vanquish Boast and even Streak Boast is yours.
First off Sun Pharaoh is the strongest. Vampire Sunflower is amazing as well offensively, but defensively when you are in close range you can get OHKO by a lot of things. So it's only fair to have something that can do the same to help protect yourself.
I can do well with her, but when a Scientist warps in on you it's over and even if you hit them with every single one of your projectiles they still out DPS you.
Not to mention this would be especially effective to have in Herbal Assault when you have to push into the Garden, something where Solar Beam is absolutely useless.
Kid friendly game is exactly why we have a lot of issues that we have, Especially with proper co-ordination that both teams should have to triumph which atm only effects the plants. Zombies can run and gun as they wish and still be successful.
They could still make this kid friendly and just have the life drain effect instead of blood as she's draining them. Although it would be nice if she had her own type of dot effect as well like a chance at bleed damage when enough of her shots land.
Oooooo I like that idea. A DoT that leeches life.
@llachie wrote:
I have gotten revival, heal, vanquish and streak boast in one game as the vampire flower and it was my first time playing as her. I used to be shadow flower or metal petal but vampire flower out shines them all.
That's nice, would love to see you do that with me in the game, you'd probably only get the revive master with all the plants I'm killing 😉
That bleed and dot goes exactly with a Vampire theme, great suggestion to compensate for her minuscule health value.
She was the first plant I got to master, and yes she can be very good indeed. Only her health lets her down (kind of).
I had a suggestion on another thread regarding sunflowers. An alternative 'heal beam'. Basically instead of healing, it drains a victim of health, healing your own, whilst also reducing the damage of their primary weapon, and also adding to your own. No idea on numbers for the damage drain but if set just right as a percentage, rather than a number, it would negate the need for a 'shotgun variant' class. When the link is broken the health drain / heal stops, but the damage gained stays active for a couple of seconds. That would definately fit a vampire flower. Brain Drain?
@InC0g wrote:She was the first plant I got to master, and yes she can be very good indeed. Only her health lets her down (kind of).
I had a suggestion on another thread regarding sunflowers. An alternative 'heal beam'. Basically instead of healing, it drains a victim of health, healing your own, whilst also reducing the damage of their primary weapon, and also adding to your own. No idea on numbers for the damage drain but if set just right as a percentage, rather than a number, it would negate the need for a 'shotgun variant' class. When the link is broken the health drain / heal stops, but the damage gained stays active for a couple of seconds. That would definately fit a vampire flower. Brain Drain?
Not bad at all. It would be nice for your Brain Drain to have more range than a heal beam, so that she doesn't have to get too close to Zombies which will make her avoid getting OHKO'd, but such a unique idea I like it. Fits with the Vampire theme as well.
@Zaheen1337 @ZenopoCheers guys, my ability idea is too hardcore for some it seems and they don't want to see their fav class get it's life drained away, but my bleed dot would be amazing to have. You may not win all your battles with a high HP Zombie or a Scientist, but boy will they feel the effects of that battle as they bleed out.
Keep the ideas coming guys.
@KnowsNoLimit wrote:
@Zaheen1337 Cheers, my ability idea is too hardcore for some it seems and they don't want to see their fav class get it's life drained away, but my bleed dot would be amazing to have. You may not win all your battles with a high HP Zombie or a Scientist, but boy will they feel the effects of that battle as they bleed out.
Keep the ideas coming guys.
Yeah, you know, just gave you the same props for that idea, but hey, Zaheen1337 must sit with the cool kids so pay no mind to anyone else at the other tables, amiright?
@Zenopo Sorry about that I thought I had both of you tagged, but I'm also glad you liked the idea. All fixed up now.
This is nothing to do with popularity at all. You do know Zaheen isn't in the best of places with people right?
This thread is solely about buffing Vampire Sunflower and really any Sunflower since they all have difficulties with Zombies at close range. I think like Corn she should have higher health as her hit box is pretty big and like I said before is just a walking critical hit which doesn't help her cause.
KnowsNoLimit wrote:
@Zenopo Sorry about that I thought I had both of you tagged, but I'm also glad you liked the idea. All fixed up now.
This is nothing to do with popularity at all. You do know Zaheen isn't in the best of places with people right?
This thread is solely about buffing Vampire Sunflower and really any Sunflower since they all have difficulties with Zombies at close range. I think like Corn she should have higher health as her hit box is pretty big and like I said before is just a walking critical hit which doesn't help her cause.
Hooray :D!
It was a joke :P Hard to tell those on the internet. I did not know this and do not know why seeing as (I imagine) these forums are tight about any vulgar language or anything else you would normally find on other forums that would put you in not the best of places...results may vary.
I'm all for buffing the Sunflower (and Cactus). I was in favor of replacing her Sunbeam skill for a "mech" of sort. Sunbeam feels like a watered down version of Pea Gatling...Big Bolt Blaster, Cannon Rodeo and even Super Brainz ranged fire...
@Zenopo wrote:@KnowsNoLimit wrote:
@Zenopo Sorry about that I thought I had both of you tagged, but I'm also glad you liked the idea. All fixed up now.
This is nothing to do with popularity at all. You do know Zaheen isn't in the best of places with people right?
This thread is solely about buffing Vampire Sunflower and really any Sunflower since they all have difficulties with Zombies at close range. I think like Corn she should have higher health as her hit box is pretty big and like I said before is just a walking critical hit which doesn't help her cause.
Hooray :D!
It was a joke :P Hard to tell those on the internet. I did not know this and do not know why seeing as (I imagine) these forums are tight about any vulgar language or anything else you would normally find on other forums that would put you in not the best of places...results may vary.
I'm all for buffing the Sunflower (and Cactus). I was in favor of replacing her Sunbeam skill for a "mech" of sort. Sunbeam feels like a watered down version of Pea Gatling...Big Bolt Blaster, Cannon Rodeo and even Super Brainz ranged fire...
Nah man joke or not if you liked my idea I will give you props, so it was my bad.
Yeah the language on her is really strict it is kind of odd.
Sunbeam is really really good now, it's just that's all fine and dandy when you are defending the Garden. However you aren't really going to be pushing into the Graveyard when you are sitting in the ground.
That's why I'm throwing out ideas to give Sunflower and in this thread specifically Vampire Sunflower something more offensive with mobility so that she can use it if need be.
As for the mech, do you know their's a picture of a Sunflower mech type design in the Plants HQ?
So maybe pop cap considered her to have it at one time.
Still one thing that bugs me is that unless you are offensive in your play style you aren't rewarded. So even though you are supporting your team and not racking up high numbers you don't get recognised for it. In GW1 that wasn't the case,
