Last game in GW1, there were multiple threads on this one, so I thought I'd bring it back up here.They ought to add a minimum arming range to the ZPG and now, Shuck Shot, where the projectiles will do 150 damage instead of an instant kill unless they've been in flight for at least half a second. This minor change prevents Soldier and Kernel players from simply activating that ability for a cheap, free kill against melee classes the minute they get close, and is a get out of jail free card against Chomper and Super Brainz.Edit: Wow, the forum is THIS toxic about ideas they don't like? The guy below me already explained why they kept it in GW2.

Well don't forget that when using the ZPG or Shuck Shot there is a small charge time on them allowing The Chomper or Super Brainz to hurt or possibly vanquish them, And the Chomper can Burrow to avoid damage from the ZPG and Super Brainz can use his Turbo Twister to reduce the damage taken from Shuck Shot so i don't really see a problem with it.

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Anonymous
9 years ago
Well don't forget that when using the ZPG or Shuck Shot there is a small charge time on them allowing The Chomper or Super Brainz to hurt or possibly vanquish them, And the Chomper can Burrow to avoid damage from the ZPG and Super Brainz can use his Turbo Twister to reduce the damage taken from Shuck Shot so i don't really see a problem with it.
CJackson5083
9 years ago
This is a terrible idea.
Anonymous
9 years ago
Good god no. That would mean no more rocket jumps and zpg kills, which actually takes some modicum of skill.
ECM_Atlas
9 years ago
@xGolden_Warfarex wrote:
Well don't forget that when using the ZPG or Shuck Shot there is a small charge time on them allowing The Chomper or Super Brainz to hurt or possibly vanquish them, And the Chomper can Burrow to avoid damage from the ZPG and Super Brainz can use his Turbo Twister to reduce the damage taken from Shuck Shot so i don't really see a problem with it.
In that case, it really must be that hit detection at that range really is just that wonky. Makes sense. We wouldn't need this at all once they fix hit detection.
ShavedThronel0
9 years ago
I agree with nerfing shuck shot and zpg. I'm not sure how people do a 180 degree turn and hit you. I'm a chomper and i goop a solider using the zpg and he somehow turns very fast and hits me. Or when someone throws fog and randomly throws a zpg into it and hits me. Also shuck shot is just as bad because im hiding behind a tree or wall and the shot curves and always hits me. I want to know how people have 100% accuracy with the zpg and shuck shot.
Anonymous
9 years ago
IKR im having the same problem! escpecially with the shuck shot, since it shoots 2 corn cobs that do 150 DAMAGE EACH! one of them seems to curve a bit
Zaheen1337
9 years ago
@CJackson5083 wrote:

This is a terrible idea.

@ECM_Atlas

Don't listen to people like this, anyone with any gaming skill at all will agree that having one of the best classes in the game with a primary weapon doesn't need any further ability that insta kills every class. I don't think Shuck Shot should be nerfed, most I've been able to hit someone with it is 173 in my backyard battleground, online I think I hit a 250...meaning each cob must do 125? ZPG however is easier to land and because you can fire it mid air makes it better, but it's a ridiculous ability.

@xGolden_Warfarex

You really don't have time to burrow after you see someone shooting the ZPG, read the opening post again. I have also been killed to a random ZPG fired by someone I've actually burrowed and almost vanquished, as I've come up to chomp him the ZPG came out and killed me. I must admit that the timing was great and luck on his part, I could have stayed under him and waited but I didn't really think it was possible to die like that.

@InC0g

You can still jump and shoot rockets even if it was nerfed, I really don't see why it should do 250+ damage and be able to one shot every single plant regardless.
Screion
9 years ago
The ZPG insta-kill really isn't anything new to the game. It has been there since the beginning. Except that it has been nerfed and deals less splash. It hasn't been any problem for me so far, even as Chomper. If anything the Arctic Trooper with the freeze ZPG combo can be mean.

The Shuck Shot on the other hand can be really annoying as people now spam that to get easy vanquishes. Took me a while to adapt, but now i know how people play and react accordingly. The All-Star for example is a great counter. As soon as you see some Corn trying to one-shot you as All-Star you know you are facing an inexperienced beginner.

Since the All-Star can easily deploy a shield to block it or use the tackle to cause it to miss and deal damage in the process.

Only the engineer seems to have it rough. But if he reacts fast with a jackhammer ride, it will miss.
Anonymous
9 years ago
I haven't really had this problem tbh. I'm not saying it's not out there and it's not annoying, but most of the time if I get up close with a Cob, he either tries to Shuck Shot me and most of the time hits the wall, doing splash damage,or he Husk Hops over me and either vanquishes me or not. Soldiers, usually just shoot and throw smoke. I think a reason why it can be seen as handy to people is doing damage to Super Brainz who are in their face with the Twister.
CJackson5083
9 years ago
If you get killed by it, you deserved to get killed by it. Don't want to die? How about you don't get close enough to die. Pretty simple if you ask me. And as stated, ZPG insta shot has been around since the first game, so it's not going to go anywhere. We will let the developers decide...want to bet who wins? I have a clue for you...it will be me and the others that say don't nerf it. [admin-removed]