The Plant Struggle Is Real
I don't know why, but over the past several days, where I have mostly been on plant teams during Turf take over, the plants can't seem to win. Not just losing the game, but rarely even making it past...
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Just look at the size of your ego man. Look at how you reply to people that disagree. Are you always this right IRL?
I'm just showing an average winrate across maps on turf takeover. There's nothing wrong with that at all. Devs would do it to see which sides are winning as a whole across their game and gametypes. Winrates over 47% in other games ARE considered balanced. For someone with, what was it again 97% A Level maths? (Not sure why you felt the need to inform people of that btw other than ego) please point out what's wrong with my method. BTW I didn't round it up to 47%. Not sure where you read that.
Maps clearly do play a massive part. In competitive play on the PC some maps are taken out of rotation due to imbalance. That's fact.
People are making false claims like only winning 1 in 10 of their plant games, 200 assists per match, or that plants can's get boasts (*cough* looking at you *cough*). You know that's *.
If that was true they'd have:
- Be really, really unlucky and always have zomburbia and moon base z in rotation.
- They aren't very good at the game and are part of the reason the side they are on loses
- Are good at the game kdr wise but don't realise they need to actually cap points to win.
- Just plain exaggerating their loss or lying.
All this constant whining is reinforcing players opinion that they can't possibly expect to win as plants, which is a complete fallacy. You are part of the problem in that respect.
Seeing as you're so amazing in game, and life, I'd have thought that you'd have recognised that it is much more beneficial to try and explain to fellow players that it is still possible to win, how to counter them etc. You will only gain in skill playing against better (or OP) players. You should know that too from all your competitive play on the pc. Oh wait you didn't actually compete in anything despite your bluster. In comparison I have several thousand official, friendly and mixes under my belt. You know games under actual comp. rules in an enclosed environment. Not pub hero playtime.
An example of people needing to L2P.
Zomburbia last night, unbalanced game 7 plants, 9 zombies. It placed me on zombies so I switched to plants to even it up. We had 4 cactus out of 8 players sat at spawn at the first cap. WTF was they thinking. How did they expect to counter the zombies attempting to rush our spawn with that sort of choice. They couldn't snipe from that position, only use their drones. Yet these are the kind of people that could potentially come on here, see your threads, and decide it's not their fault they lost, it's the game. Perfect Dunning-Kruger (look it up, like ad hominem you might learn something)
I'm not claiming that zombies aren't OP. Far from it; but they only need minor nerfs, and most certainly not the ridiculous list of plant buffs you passed off as 'balanced' because you said so, and your opinion comes from god himself.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Even if the zombies team lose it isn't because the plants are balanced, it is probably because zombies were too busy farming kills from the spawn point to even care about the bloody objective! Rendering all your points invalid, sorry.
Seriously??? That's why plants win much more on the defensive maps? Where it suits their playstyle. Where they aren't even farming kills because they are too busy dying. Yes right of course because otherwise you'd be wrong, and that can't possibly be so. You're an idiot. Rendering all my points invalid? There's that massive ego again.
You know what baffles me the most about you? You somehow found the time from GW2's beta release to buy GW1 and level up to max. How could you possibly have all those hours free and still have the time to be so awesome, go to work on a very high wage because you're amazing, gifted and intelligent to boot and date all those hot women with that massive * of yours? Your life really is a shining example to us all.
Lol, where am I suppose to start with that?
My maths trophy and A level results were to imply I'm not going to fall for some fabricated made up number, by you or anyone. You may win 100% of your games, where as Joe Bloggs may win only 30% of his. You cannot break down someone else's claims and add them to your own experience to make up a value, and then add more to that made up value and end up with 47%. I then stated that even if it was true, which it bloody isn't, it would be because zombies don't care about defending the objective because they want the plants to take it so they can farm MORE kills.
I haven't lied about anything, I really did get 200 assists with the Welder, and I bet I could get very similar figures online as well because that class has as much splash as toxic pea if not more...
My personal life or what I'm doing with my time right now isn't really any of your business. I've made the choice of taking a few months off work, the comments about ladies was from high school until now and it's not many, and that comment can't be taken back and it was in response to someone who was being pretty offensive. The reply above by me was made at someone else acting so ridiculous that I felt he needed to be put in his place, but that person wasn't you, was it? It's just you seem to like holding his hand which isn't my problem is it, it's your own.
Anyway man, I still disagree with your points. Primarily because you're wrong...you are however entitled to your own opinion, however wrong or right you think it is. 😉
Bottom line is, plants have very little / next to no burst at all. The few bombs they do have can be blasted into space from what I've heard and well when trying to capture a base with classes that were designed to be defensive, you're going to struggle badly. When you're attacking classes that have over 5x the health you do, and 5x the damage output you do (Vampire Flower vs Mech) for example, you're up against impossible odds. Now please absorb this fact into your tiny little brain so we can agree on something and move on.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Lol, where am I suppose to start with that?
My maths trophy and A level results were to imply I'm not going to fall for some fabricated made up number, by you or anyone. You may win 100% of your games, where as Joe Bloggs may win only 30% of his. You cannot break down someone else's claims and add them to your own experience to make up a value, and then add more to that made up value and end up with 47%. I then stated that even if it was true, which it bloody isn't, it would be because zombies don't care about defending the objective because they want the plants to take it so they can farm MORE kills.
Please quote me where I said plants win 47% of games. Go ahead. If the average win rate in this, or any game, is say roughly 50%, and you have a player winning 30% consistently then what does that show about the player? Oh, and before you assume I'm saying the win rate of plants is now 50% I'm not. Just to clarify my position.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
I then stated that even if it was true, which it bloody isn't, it would be because zombies don't care about defending the objective because they want the plants to take it so they can farm MORE kills.
Try reading what I put next time. I said that when plants are defending they win more. I'm quite sure that if the zombies wanted to farm kills they would push the cap point. Maths might be your strong point but comprehension sure isn't.
So then according to you, when on attack, plants only win due to zombies allowing them to so they can farm more kills. Nice statement. Funny how on some games on certain maps, those pesky zombies don't seem to want the plants to pass the first one. Doesn't really fit your argument does it.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
I haven't lied about anything, I really did get 200 assists with the Welder, and I bet I could get very similar figures online as well because that class has as much splash as toxic pea if not more...
Ok cupcake. You go get 200 assists online. Post the video. Should be interesting. Actually I'll make it easy for you; lets go with half that. 100 would be a great start.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
My personal life or what I'm doing with my time right now isn't really any of your business
Indeed. So why do you keep feeling the need to tell everyone, in multiple threads, how awesome you are 🙂
Listen pal, I'm using an iPad and it's not as easy as a PC to copy and paste, and I'm not prepared to waste 20 minutes of my time just to prove you wrong.
Why don't you press the previous page or two and read what you wrote, and save yourself the embarrassment...
How about that, hmm? 🙂
