Hoping someone from EA reads this and passes on to the developers. I've encountered two very annoying flaws recently:1. If a card has overshoot and it gets frozen, it still does the overshoot attack. This should NOT be the case2. When the hover goat damages Briar Rose, the goat bounces instead of being destroyed by Briar Rose

#1) That seems to be what is intended. There is nothing in the description for Overshoot that makes me think it shouldn't work that way.#2) This is also intended (I'm assuming you are referring to damage received by the goat in the battle phase that doesn't kill him). Hover-Goat's ability activates before Briar-Rose's. That means he is gone before the plant can destroy him.

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Anonymous
8 years ago
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#1) That seems to be what is intended. There is nothing in the description for Overshoot that makes me think it shouldn't work that way.
#2) This is also intended (I'm assuming you are referring to damage received by the goat in the battle phase that doesn't kill him). Hover-Goat's ability activates before Briar-Rose's. That means he is gone before the plant can destroy him.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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Actually a problem that needs fixing is if Barrel of Deadbeards is on Moon Base Z and is destroyed, when the barrel explodes and everything takes damage and the Captain doesn't land and you're stuck until you concede.

This is something that needs fixing. The two things that you mentioned are just mechanics beating the system so to speak
jaydabbler
8 years ago
both of OP's issues are normal mechanics of the game. nothing needs to be fixed
(PSA: Goat can also dodge a potato mine for the same reason)
Anonymous
8 years ago
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I will be happy if there is kind of explanation book for these. For instance, players should be informed that which effects will be activated first, second, third and so on. Many times when I saw the sequence of effects, I felt like it was pretty random. I really encourage EA to describe order of effects for players.
daalnnii
8 years ago
Basically, anything that is going to happen in that Lane for the fight, zombies go first; because... ...zombies go first. If a zombie will bounce because of damage, it will happen before a bonus attack or effect. Same with frenzy, i.e. if you have bananasaurus and sweet potato in a lane. Should you survive the first attack and kill sweet potato, you'll attack bananasaurus before it gets it's bonus attack.

This goes all the way to damage calculation. If both players have a strikethrough in the first lane that will kill the other hero, zombies win; even if the plant would Overkill by a wider margin.

But remember, according to these forums, plants are OP

This is basically the order. Zombie attack, plant attack. (Damage calculation is technically after, which is why the plant killed during that attack still gets to do damage) THEN zombie effect + damage calculation, then plant effect +damage calculation.
Azombioso
8 years ago
Exactly as @daalnnii said.
Zombies interactions have priority on the game, that's why Hover Goat bounces off before Briar Rose can kill it.
The other factor, Overshoot attacks while frozen, works completely fine. It is an ability, not an actual attack.
That's why freeze don't stop the card from doing that face damage.
It's like if you froze a Toxic Waste Imp. You can freeze it, but that doesn't stop other Imps from getting deadly.
And this is actually a topic that was once covered on the forum, the fact that freeze should also impede the target from using abilities, rather than just denying an attack.
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
It would help if there was a better explanation on the cards, or game. Often we only find out these things through playing, over and over again. I appreciate not everything can be written but at the moment what's written is the bare minimum. This leads to confusion, and mistakes played in matches.
daalnnii
8 years ago
@saintlydevilis that's a great suggestion! Those "fine print" rules could be added into the first few tutorial stages so that all of them are clear from the start. I'm going to tag @EA_Roger on this. At the very latest, though, it would be something to bring up on the second round of the Dev QA (unannounced as of yet, but they're working on it)
904e8d29c3cd2aa
8 years ago
@saintlydevilis wrote:
It would help if there was a better explanation on the cards, or game. Often we only find out these things through playing, over and over again. I appreciate not everything can be written but at the moment what's written is the bare minimum. This leads to confusion, and mistakes played in matches.
Check out jaydabbers question in the pinned Q&A on mechanics. That may be helpful.
Back to number two two on the original. I am assuming we are talking a buffed hover goat correct? Three damage of briar should kill it outright if not?
Azombioso
8 years ago
@904e8d29c3cd2aa2 Not exactly. The problem (at least as I understood it) is when Hover Goat attacks ANY flower, not specifically a Briar Rose. (Like a Morning Glory for example.)
The Hover Goat should be killed because of the effect of the Briar Rose, but the goat bounces back before the Rose's effect.
It's not like, exclusively to Hover Goat attacking a Briar Rose.