Weed Spray is unbalanced
Hi everyone,
First off, as I am new here, let me start by saying that I really enjoy the game and hope to see it grow !
I already started discussing this with other players on forums and many ...
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It CAN be devastating to beginner decks. But like a lot of cards in this game, it is only useful in certain situations. There's a trade-off. Some cards are very powerful in some situations, but useless in others. While some cards are much less powerful, but useful in most situations.
Personally, I don't have much use for weed spray. I only have it in one or two decks.
- ApprovedI disagree when you say this card is situational. All the top decks hearty classes I have faced rely on this card at early and mid game to "brainlessly" clear the board!
At turn 3 what is the probability to have plants with a strength higher than 3?! None, 0... Very unlikely. So I don't think this card is situational. It would never be unplayable, always have a use and at least kill 1 plant without any drawback.
Just compare it to Doom Shroom and you'll see what I mean by Situational.
Weed spray on its own destroys guardian class's strategy which consists in building a wall of plants with high health and low strength with team up... This is way too much power in a single card for 3 brains.
I've looked for ways to protect my plants against this plague, but it's impossible at early game or mid game I need at least 6 suns to put my plants in a safe spot with Berry Angry and Spine Apple. Plants strength buff cards are extremely limited. Only Spudow has some available but the likeliness of getting them in your hand to save your plants is very low. The fact that draw cards are even more limited for plants doesn't help either.
Try to grind stars with a guardian plant deck and let me me know if you still think this card is not unbalanced. Otherwise I hope you reconsider- Approved
I've never had an issue with the weed spray. Does it clear your board? Sometimes. But I don't see the issue. The weed spray really is to help remove those wallnuts which are a pain to get through.
I also believe that weed spray only destroys 2 damage and below, not 3.
When I have it in my deck, I don't find a huge use for it to be honest.
- ApprovedOf course if you are playing Zombies and wondering whether it is an issue or not it doesn't make much sense.
It sounds rather biased and does not bring anything constructive to the discussion.
I feel like most players use Zombies anyways. So my point of view will only be shared by a minority.
However, I'm pretty sure EA can look through their stats if they have - I hope they do - and easily determine without bias whether Weed Spray is too good or not.
@Frulegs wrote:
I disagree when you say this card is situational. All the top decks hearty classes I have faced rely on this card at early and mid game to "brainlessly" clear the board!
At turn 3 what is the probability to have plants with a strength higher than 3?! None, 0... Very unlikely. So I don't think this card is situational. It would never be unplayable, always have a use and at least kill 1 plant without any drawback.Blooming Heart (1 sun): by turn 3 you can have 3 out that are over 2 damage.
Berry Angry (3 sun): gives all plants on board +2 damage
Zapricot (3 sun): 4 damage plant
Seedling (2 sun): can give a plant that costs up to 6 sun
Wild Berry (2 sun): 4 damage
Bonk Choy (1 sun): 3 damage on the turn it's played (play it turn 3)
Pea Pod (1 sun): can be 3 damage by turn 3 if played on turn 1
Black eyed bean (2 sun): can be 3 damage easily by turn 3 against trick heavy opponents
Fire Peashooter (2 sun): 3 damage
Lily of the Valley (2 sun): played turn 3 will make almost any 1 sun plant in the elevated lane survive
Fertilize (3 sun): give a plant +3/+3
Muscle sprout (3 sun): 3 damage
Snowdrop (1 sun): gets +2/+2 when a zombie is frozen... which can be done for 1 sun
Cattail (3 sun): 3 damage
Rescue Radish (3 sun): 3 damage
Sportacus (3 sun): 3 damage
Vanilla (3 sun): 3 damage
Seems a bit better than zero chance... on top of straight up play options to beat weedspray turn 3
potato mine will do two damage to a zombie in the lane when destroyed... making weedspray helpful with smart play
Hot date will move a zombie to the lane before being destroyed by it, and do 3 damage
Pear Cub is a 3 cost 1/1 that when destroyed puts a 5/4 out in it's place and is amphibious... meaning play it on the water lane if you think they'll play weedspray... a 5/4 on water is not easily taken care of early game
Just because you choose not to play these options doesn't mean they aren't there or that a card is overpowered.
and the drawback to killing one "2 damage" card for 3 brains, is it cost you 3 brains to kill one "2 damage" card... so turn 3 they kill one of your 3 plants and can't play anything else? sounds like a good trade off to me.
- ApprovedYou're right that some guardians can place higher strength or direct damage, but wall knight's options are very few.
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