With Rose being gone, zombies will dominate

Zombies are already dominating in Turf Takeover because once you figure out how to deal with Rose, no one pushes the objective and those that do don't get the support from selfish Rose players just die in the chaos.

Not worried, everyone will get their turn.

Rose is not more of a nuisance than a problem in some game modes...unless you're playing Imp.

Except there is no "Dealing with Rose" - People just pick 4-5 of her and dominate. She is far more than "a nuisance" on every other mode than Garden Ops 😉

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@LlamaWaffle92 wrote:
I fear that how broken Rose is, is over shadowing some other balance issues. Particularly on the zombies side. I fear that when rose gets hit, the zombies are going to trample over the plants.

Here's just a few issues
-electro brainz is sort of out of line. His ranged attack has too large of an arc radius. And the damage is a bit much.

-I'm a die hard scientist fan. It's one of my favorite classes. But I fear that certain variants of scientist will become troublesome without rose there to keep it in check. Particularly the chemist. He can 2 shot most plants and usually can kill 3-4 players before dying.

-Captain deadbeard. If you play multiplayer you probably know why this class needs some tweaking. Naturally to fight rose you pick whatever works, and captain works. I think he suffers from rose syndrome, in that he doesn't seem to have any real drawback, except maybe for some speed. It's not unusual to see 5-6 of them on a team at a time, mostly just sniping.

I feel like most players are so preoccupied with rose being absurd that a lot of these issues haven't become apparent. I doubt any other impactful balance changes are coming with the patch this week.

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Yea, looking at the patch notes, it seems Zombies will once dominate the plants.

Not sure as to why they nerfed the Zen Cactus. Yes, it does a lot of damage, how ever, I saw it as a counter for the plethora of Super Brainz, All-Stars, and Captain Deadbeards spamming from afar with better accuracy than other Cacti. Lets not forget the netcode, I've had a few instances where my shots are not registered and by the time it reloads the target is either out of sight, or right infront of me. It takes me two shots to kill an IMP, it takes almost all your ammo to kill a Super Brainz. Captain Deadbeards can easily go behind cover as soon as they're hit because of how terrible their designs are where they can wall glitch shots, literally  been shot at through walls by Super Brainz, Allstars, Foot Soldiers, Engineers, Scientists, Imps, and Captain Deadbeards (basically all zombies). Unlike most plants (except for the Rose) where you literally have to show almost your whole body before being able to shoot with out being obstructed by an object.

Honestly, the only real concern for me is that Electro Brainz is getting untouched. His beams a little overtuned, as a few people know - high RoF, ridiculous shock spread.

You'll probably see more Citrons/Corns/Peashooters since the Rose lost her "easymode" button. Meaning more offense for the plants overall.

You should also see more Cacti, but like any sniper battle, how that pans out depends on who can aim/use cover better. (Whether that be the Cactus or Deadbeard)

Deadbeard will win due to all the wall and head glitching that's going to happen.

Much harder to wall glitch with a plant due to the character models.

Oh yeah. 

Here we go!

rosependant noobs coming to cry about their over powered character getting meat sacked. 

Well if you're nerfing rose nerf everything because I suck at this game without rose !

get the hell out of here..

just go eat some sand. 

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@RosePlayersSuck wrote:

Except there is no "Dealing with Rose" - People just pick 4-5 of her and dominate. She is far more than "a nuisance" on every other mode than Garden Ops 😉

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Rose was no longer an issue, unless you're one of those idiots that sit back and try to outshoot her. As long as you keep your distance, she's gonna tear you apart. If you CQC her, she's dead and can't just sit back and pick and choose her targets. Any game I've been in from the start, no Rose has made the leaderboard.

Scientists, Engineers, All-Stars, and Super Brainz all have abilities that can get in close to her and tear her apart.

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@AWMaxSterling wrote:

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@RosePlayersSuck wrote:

Except there is no "Dealing with Rose" - People just pick 4-5 of her and dominate. She is far more than "a nuisance" on every other mode than Garden Ops 😉

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Rose was no longer an issue, unless you're one of those idiots that sit back and try to outshoot her. As long as you keep your distance, she's gonna tear you apart. If you CQC her, she's dead and can't just sit back and pick and choose her targets. Any game I've been in from the start, no Rose has made the leaderboard.

Scientists, Engineers, All-Stars, and Super Brainz all have abilities that can get in close to her and tear her apart.

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It currently takes a team of competent players to win against a group of roses. I can take out a few before I'm spammed to death by the other. Had matches I went 30+ vanquishes while my team couldn't achieve nothing higher than 9.

I have a feeling the tables have turned, now the plants are going to get dominated.

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@Evilwendie wrote:

Oh yeah. 

Here we go!

rosependant noobs coming to cry about their over powered character getting meat sacked. 

Well if you're nerfing rose nerf everything because I suck at this game without rose !

get the hell out of here..

just go eat some sand. 

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You're a moron. Rose has been becoming less and less of an issue. I've even won my first game as a zombie on that Great White North map... made it to the end. If zombies have already figured out how to beat her and win matches, then it only tips the scale further towards the zombies dominating matches. That's the point of this thread.