how is tax calculated?
if happiness goes down tax drops from 20% to 14.. 10 and so on
but what does 20% represent? and how is it calculated.
ive boosted my population by 30k, and my tax income has hardly increased by 400 coins/24h.
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- Hypothetical: you have 1 high rise with 1000 people and you collect $1000 in tax. Add a park nearby and the population increases to 1200(20%) but the tax only increases $1100(10%). This would suggest that the tax is not dependent directly on population or if it is, it's a weird artificial formula. What is more likely is that the tax is dependent on the type, size, and development of the building. Adding the park increases the value of the building(or at least the land around it). This is consistent with real life. The tenants in a building typically do not pay taxes to the city, the property owner does. Adding more tenants does not increase the tax revenue, however, adding improvements to a building usually increases the value and in turn increase the taxes.
@tommy0guns wrote:
http://scbuildit.com/buildings/residential-zones/So building type does effect tax collected but the extreme decrease in over all tax revenue as the population increases still isn't explained at least not to my satisfaction. If the happiness of the people changes the tax rate then they are being taxed and not just the buildings owners. Otherwise why would happiness matter. So far the only explanation I have for why the tax revenue is the way it is; is to artificial keep us from earning what we need to play at a pace we expect. At least when compared to the previous simcity games. I'm not complaining just observing here. I pop in and out of the game as I do other things and what not. So the pace doesn't bother me.
- I think population has no bearing on anything, other than progression. Think of population as xp. The happiness is a function of the building, not necessarily the people inside of it. The population in the building doesn't increase or decrease based on happiness, unless the building is totally undesirable, then it goes to 0. (I wonder if a deserted building still generates tax). Think of the happiness percentage as how complete a building is. 100% complete has adequate services.
So far the only explanation I have for why the tax revenue is the way it is; is to artificial keep us from earning what we need to play at a pace we expect.
(This is more of a general comment, rather than directed at you.)
Can you name one thing about the game that doesn't follow this same philosophy?
@hazzey01 wrote:(This is more of a general comment, rather than directed at you.)
Can you name one thing about the game that doesn't follow this same philosophy?
True but at least with the time to make items we have control over that limitation. Because we can queue up a bunch of stuff to be made while we are not able to play. The ultimate limitation is the rate at which simoleons are gained without leveling the whole city to do the rapid rebuild thing. I've been slowly building up my city. Since I join the forum about a month ago. I originally made a mistake and placed zones every time they became available. And tried to have power, water, etc for all of that. After a couple power plants and then having all the other stuff needed to I realized I was trying to grow to fast. Anyways so I demolished down to like 6 or 8 max buidlings and added two at a time at what I would call the intended growth pace. I made a post in another thread with a guide to starting out using what I figure to be how I would have done it knowing what I know now to get to the point where you place the first medical. But anyways so at this point (one month from when I started the city) I'm level 18, have 94,000 population, a strong foundation design to expand outward with, and 200,000 simpleons to work with. I have bought one police precinct, one hospital, one deluxe fire station. Each day I have gotten about as much from tax revenue with the coin popups and cargo ship. What I have is enough to lay the foundation of the top end power, water treatment, and garbage handling. And from there I can grow my city to the max capacity of those and hopefully enough simoleons to expand those by the time each is needed. Following my methods so far used to get to this point.
@tommy0guns wrote:
I think population has no bearing on anything, other than progression. Think of population as xp. The happiness is a function of the building, not necessarily the people inside of it. The population in the building doesn't increase or decrease based on happiness, unless the building is totally undesirable, then it goes to 0. (I wonder if a deserted building still generates tax). Think of the happiness percentage as how complete a building is. 100% complete has adequate services.I guess the reason at least why I expect population to have a bearing on this is the statement in the city hall popup: Happy Sims will pay more taxes. But if the sims aren't being taxed and it is purely how many zones you have and the property values of them (luxury or what not) then why say that in the popup. Because all happiness is then is a factor of the tax rate not how much taxes the sims are paying. Because as we know already as the population increases the tax revenue does not increase at the same rate so the sims aren't paying taxes. Just my observations.
Hey using Aprigul's data points you can fit a regression line to it and it seems to be simply a formula. The R squared value is 1 so I am guessing this would be the correct method within his data. However I tested this with a population of 77496 and it projected a much higher tax income than what I receive.
Anyway best way to figure out the method would be to post population and tax income at the 20% bracket for enough data.
The the equation from the regression line for Aprigul's data is Income=0.1493(population) + 2132.8
wow that is 5 times my current population and yet only maybe 50% more in tax revenue than I get. Has anyone discovered any more specific details?
- Here's my latest take on taxes http://answers.ea.com/t5/SimCity-BuildIt-Support/Tax-is-a-percentage-of-what-simcity-buildit/m-p/4292176#U4292176 taxes are definetely not based on the percentage of the population figure. I'm pretty sure theyre based on the theoretical income your city is earning. I.E. If your earning 20,000 daily at 20% tax rate then your city must be earning a total of 100,000 daily.
But for some reason there is an inflationary mechanism at work that reduces the earning power of the individual sim as the population grows. I have no idea why but I can confirm it.
I think half the fun for me is trying to figure out this convoluted system lol
