6 years ago
Open our eyes
On weekly update of top20 rankings there's always an average of 10 to 13 russian clubs, more than 50%. Congratulations russian players, you're very very very strong! Clubs from the rest of the worl...
Yes, almost all of the top teams are from Russia. 90% of the russian teams I fought are hackers. China too.
It is strange that EA did not put more effort into looking into the top teams. I don’t understand what is so difficult to retrieve their data and check.
But still, the bubble problem was a problem that needed to be addressed. In fact, at the time where number of bubble lovers exceeded the number of cheaters, cheaters are like the lesser evil in my eyes. In fact, I prefer to fight cheaters at that time. Whenever I see my opponent team is from Russia, China, India, etc, I just focus on farming war stuff. It was better than putting so much resources into fighting the war to get the lead and ended up losing because of those hiding rats.
Of course, I have to admit that now with the rats being crushed, the cheater problem is amplified. With almost every team being cheater team on arena 5. EA, you need to actively ban those teams. They are making you lose money. Imagine the number of customers they chased away. Imagine the number of legit players joining their side to cheat instead of spending money on your game. Do you make and maintain this game for those cheaters to play it for free with no limitations?
@meesfeet Interesting perspective that speaks volumes...same thing is taking place in CoM where you have 2 or 3 individuals averaging 2,200+ points per assignment and finishing 30K + points ahead of everyone else. To put in perspective you would have to complete 60 - 2K poInts & 15 - 3K points assignments and quite frankly I’ve been participating since the beginning and I have never seen anywhere close to 80% of the available assignments that were valued at 2K much less 20% at 3K. It’s blatant and obvious and nothing is being done to correct it. My theory is very simple, it’s like a criminal investigation, EA is not interested in the small offenders who cause so much damage - they’re after the masterminds where they can recover some of their economic losses. It’s understandable but in the process they are allowing the ever so clear cheating to kill the game. If they made me king for a day, my first order of business would be to review the results of every contest and war game and based on simple common sense I would quietly move all offenders to a separate and unique server where I could keep a close eye on their activities and allow natural order back into the contests.
As @J6niceL shared competing against hacker clubs in war games was much more acceptable than facing the run & hide crowd...I didn’t have to hear complaints about I didn’t get to launch my attacks or I’m bored so call me if they ever come out or having to check my phone constantly on a Saturday afternoon while consuming Tylenol for my splitting headache because some...had to catch myself there - simply put I have no respect for cheaters of any kind, but I have disdain for the “strategy” boys. Take care my friend.
You totally nailed it on the pains of fighting “strategists”. You take care too!
@PinnacleValley @J6niceL I'm fully respectful for you both.
You both hammered for a legit play lot of times.
But then you both told that you prefere playing vs hackers than vs bubblers.
Forgive me, but there is a little big difference:
Bubblers used a legit rule of the game.
A boring rule, but a legit One.
Hackers breaks rules and screws every legit player.
We can talk for years about how good rules are, but the main thing is: the game must be legit.
Players must be legit, not hackers. Then we'll can play about boring rules.
So, first thing is to remove unlegit players. Second thing to improve rules.
But if/when you say you prefere unlegit players better than legit players that simply tries to win a war using a legit rule, well, sorry, but my respect falls down. 'Cause in this way you avail hackers just for your fun.
If you can't accept a rule, if you can't find a way to avoid It with a legit playing, well, you'd Better play another game better than say that hackers are better than Bubblers, that"s a low-minded point of view.
Forgive me if I have been drastic with you, as I said I love you both, and I fully respect you both, but sometimes It would be Better to shut up than to Say bs. And to Say that a hacker is funnier than a legit player is a big bs.
Peace and love my Friends, forgive me if I have a different opinion. Take care and stay safe.
Edit: btw I don't think you're low-minded people, I wouldn't loose time writing messagges to you if I thought so.
@meesfeet I do understand where you’re coming from and have reported cheaters multiple times over the past few years. I think you may be missing my point so I will try to clarify...our club participated in one war per week (as we all had real lives) starting on Thursday evening and our guys were excited and ready to prepare for battle, once committed there was no turning back - we didn’t know what type opponent we would draw but regardless it was time to go. Ideally you would compete with a team that wanted to participate and regardless of the results we all walked away having a good time. Sometimes you might encounter a cheater (especially when your 3 top players get attacked in the safety of the bubble) but our leadership never made a big deal of it to the club and most folks walked away reasonably happy...yes we reported the situation, but with no tangible evidence nothing was done. Finally on occasion you would run into a bubble team and absolutely no one walked away from those contests happy even though we never lost to a bubble team...I think I clearly shared my pain as President and why I absolutely hated those contests.
While I have never said it was cheating, I will never concede it as a legit strategy - it was simply a game plan that was very selfish and limited in scope. No one is saying cheating is acceptable, but when we were stuck in the unfortunate situation of drawing either a cheater or “strategy” club both @J6niceL and I are in agreement that it was a lot less painful playing a cheater, at least they came to compete. We are not condoning the cheaters at all but I surely am glad the run & hide strategy is dead - legitimate players adapted and the one’s that were not disappeared. Take care.
We have had players from the other teams kicked mid game when we reported them for cheating. The whole level 8 mag with average score of 120k or more is a good give away of a cheater.
We have done it 2 times. And ended up winning. Though at a big cost. Breaking into top 200 now.