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6 years ago

Peace not War for non-war teams in Simcity Buildit!

Wolf

We are not a War Club. Before we were getting war chests but they weren't opened automatically - so it wasn't a problem. Even though it was still unfair that we weren't getting non-war prizes.

Now you have started opening war chests for us automatically on the back of other rewards - that is not the sort of rubbish I pay you for a Mayor's Pass for! This creates a major problem for my team - you can only sell war items to team mates - it's how the game is set up. Selling war items is prohibited in my team because no one should have any. We don't do war or monster attacks. People that do are kicked off the team.

You are favouring war over peace. Sim City wasn't a war game but you're choosing to push that war angle.

I'm complaining on behalf of my team 'Wolf Pack'.

Some of us are disabled war veterans that play the game to assist with mental agility - we're not here to play the war element. Our club states no wars or monster attacks in our rules. You need to remove ALL of the war items from Wolf Pack and replace them with peaceful items.

The selling of war items is prohibted in my team. The only way they can clear the war items is by using the green tickets. My team works well together and plays hard. They shouldn't have to use the tickets they have earned to delete war items that you're now littering our storage areas with!

You need to balance the game out. If a team hasn't ticked 'war' as a team activity they should not get any war related tasks in the game either or you are forcing a war agenda and that is both unfair and immoral towards the peaceful players.

I would like you to do the following:

Get a message to the game developers: Stop forcing the war agenda! Some of us play the game peacefully. We want to see no war or monster attacks on our screens if we have unticked the 'War' box in the team description.

We also want you to take out the war items you have automatically opened and littered our storage areas with and replace them with non-war items and tickets.

We want an equal chance at winning the big prizes by having appropriate tasks - eg non war and no monster attacks without wasting task tickets.

All you have to do is code in the team priorities - if a club hasn't ticked 'War' in the club description, they shouldn't get any war or monster attack related tasks in the Mayor's event ... and there should be no adds pushing the war agenda in any form on the team.

Try developing the game more towards ecology issues etc if you're worried about losing players.  War isn't the answer for everything.

Some of us pay for the game - you should listen to your paying customers.

Regards

Wolf
Team Leader - Wolf Pack

30 Replies

  • NewGoodland's avatar
    NewGoodland
    New Adventurer
    6 years ago

    It would be nice to see the War aspects of game removed from the CoM. 

    I wish you luck with your club.  If you ever need Dinner Rolls, Flour and Cream....look up New Goodland...

    🙂

    -New Goodland Mayor

  • @Wolfphoto Hi, the team is Wolf Pack.

    We've been using Daniel to take away the war items, which is far from ideal.
  • @Wolfphoto Looks like you have 2 other options available at this time, both are outside your shared guidelines. The monster is an option but will take some time or contact one of the or both of the guys that have expressed interest in trading for or purchasing your war items privately (via PM) and see if they’re interested in coming to your club temporarily and securing the items. Good luck. 

  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    6 years ago

    *snip*

    If someone doesn't like playing wars, that's right.
    If their clubs got severe rules about it, that's right too.
    But to be less than the 1% of players and pretend EA to change a game that (with some problems, of course) is liked by the other 99% sounds a little utopian.

    EDIT by EA_Jason: Trolling, baiting, flaming, or general rudeness removed.

  • Wolfphoto's avatar
    Wolfphoto
    6 years ago

    @PinnacleValleyThanks but you're now stating the obvious. We had already arrived at these conclusions with the help of the other players that have contributed to this thread.

    What we are after is fairer gameplay for teams that dont want to take part in wars or monster attacks, which is the purpose of this thread 

    All the best to you.

  • @meesfeet Your message is vague (by design) but certainly speaks volumes...but do you really believe 99% is accurate? As for me I tend to state the obvious. Sadly sometimes folks assume my post is written for them regardless who it’s addressed to...it’s simply a way to let other folks understand what they need to do if they’re in a similar situation and since I brought Daniel to the table I guess I contributed the obvious as well. You know there is something to be said about doing the same thing and expecting a different results...but that‘s somewhat utopian as well.

    As for me I’m a simple country boy with a garden full of vegetables and a freezer full of meat and folks are welcome at my table regardless of whether they’re a carnivore or a vegan as long as they act like they got some sense and wipe their feet at the door (my Bride ain’t too happy when her floors get tracked up).
    Take care my friend...

  • @meesfeet It helps if people actually understand what we're saying. We're not asking EA to take the war element or monster attacks out of the game. What we're saying is follow through on the team menu design and stop discriminating against players and teams that don't want to war and stop forcing the war agenda on people that have no interest in it or in the monster attacks.

    If a team doesn't tick 'War' in the team setup menu, they shouldn't get war or monster attacks as tasks in the CoM. Their tasks should just be non-war, thereby giving them an equal opportunity to win the big individual prizes and not wasting their gold tickets by having to cancel the war and monster attack tasks.

    I hope that clarifies the situation for you and anyone else that's getting their knickers in a twist over this post by trying to detract from the original post and raise smoke screens by going on about veganism, utopia, totalitarianism and some of the other brain farts I've witnessed by some of the arm chair professors. 🙂

    It helps to keep your comments relevant when some people are raising legitimate concerns about the game

    Many thanks to those of you that have understood and supported this thread. If you work for EA, please make contact as the issue is far from resolved. The support ticket hasn't been closed down yet either, it's still a live issue for us.

    Adios.
  • meesfeet's avatar
    meesfeet
    6 years ago

    Dear @PinnacleValley: I don't know the correct % of people loving wars in SCBI, but let's see these facts: how many clubs are classified on war ranking? in January 1919 we rebooted our club and restarted from 1500 war points. At the end of the first war we were ranked at about #130.000. We won that war, so I can easely suppose that there were at least other 10.000 clubs behind us. 18 months ago!! I've heard someone telling that clubs now are about 200.000. If it's true, there could be a celling of 5M players involved in wars. OK, I know how many clubs and players are inactive or there just to be a "number", so let's easely cut this number to... let's say 1/5? Still 1M players involved in wars.
    Now let's take another fact: how many complains can we read in this forum about removing wars or war tasks? I mean, almost all of the threads in a game forum like this are complains about something that doesn't work well or that could be improved, and even if there's lot of problems with wars, there's only few people clearly asking to stop wars or war tasks. Ok, maybe not a 1%, they're probably more than just a 1%, but it remains a little minority.
    Why must EA have to change a gameplay to satisfy a request shared by a little minority? And how can they know you don't want to play wars? And what about if you change idea? And, what about the fairness in competing with people who still have war tasks? You could argue that it would be easy without wars tasks, as you could specialize in less kind of tasks, or viceversa you could argue that to have more kind of tasks would help in competition. Or you should separate competitors by they choices....
    Not so simple.

    About vegans, let me close this offtopic with just some words: Live and let live should be the rule. I don't have any problem with vegan eating vegetables I respect it. At least until a vegan disrespect me for eating a Tbone steak. Even worst if he disrespect me and too starts using falsehoods or hypocrisies they easely believe as avails their theories, like that human body are not made for eating meat.
    (PS: I already know the way you write your posts, and I share it and understand it even when we have different opinions, my friend😉)

    @Wolfphoto: don't misunderstand me, I used a little ironic joke. Forgive me if that offened you, it wasn't my intention, but let me explain why I used this irony: of course you have the right to ask for what you would like. To ask, not to pretend and somehow, what you wrote sounded like a pretension, at least to me.
    Then, after your request, just be realistic: if your own one is shared by a lot of people, maybe (MAYBE!) one day EA will try to satisfy it. But if just few players will share it as it happened until now, I guess it won't happen.
    BTW, good luck on your mission.

  • @meesfeet  Sorry my friend, my question referring to 1% was rhetorical in nature and intended as an inside joke as we’ve shared in this discussion and determined that no one really knows. As far as my reference to vegans and carnivores it was simply a continuation of your analogy.
    Too often folks simply skim what is written ( I do not include you in that category because you are very thoughtful and thorough in digesting what is written) and this thread is a perfect example.

    The initial poster stated (in the 1st 4 paragraphs) their concern was the inclusion of war items in the mayor’s pass and eventually meandered to concerns about inclusion of war tasks in paragraph 8 which I strongly agree. My response consisted of 3 parts in the 1st paragraph...⚽ How to deal with the war items within your club rules; 🏈 My opinion of war items in the mayor’s pass (no issue because you know what you’re buying before you buy); and 🏀 Confirming my concern with war assignments in CoM as well.

    Then I took exception to how something was worded and used the term “seems totalitarian” and that‘s when folks got their knickers in a twist (I believe that was the term used - around here it’s your shorts in a wad) or offended and took great exception...a wise man would have stated that is not our intent, but instead tried to spin it...and created a bit of reaction with my favorite being “their club, their rules” that confirms the skimming premise. If they had only read what I wrote in the last paragraph...

    “Of course each club can decide how they work, but remember each individual has the right to choose where they play and consider yourself fortunate they choose to participate with you, if you decide to kick them out for selling war items or attacking the monster...give them my name and have them send me a private message through the forum and I will help them find a club that will support their efforts. Good luck.“

    Anyone questioning the above can simply read (not skim) the initial response to the poster and reach their own conclusions. I tire of this discussion, so I’ll go find my arm chair. Take care my friend.

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