Re: War Items on Trade Depot not selling

Sorry, this thread has been dead a while but have a question that is related.

I'm not a member of a club.  I don't want to be a member of a club and I keep getting war items I don't want.  I can get rid of a few by attacking monsters but the rest are useless and are cluttering up my storage unit.

Will Daniel buy those if I put them up for sale?

@Labsteward  Daniel will purchase your war items at the end of 3 days...be sure to put them up at full price. Good luck.

@Labsteward Daniel will buy them after 48 hours you put them on sale. If it’s longer than 48 hours, I recommend you to contact the support desk your issue. 

If you want to get rid of your war items right away, I can introduce you a temporary trading club. You can leave right away after you sold your stuff, you won’t be involved for wars and they will pay maximum price. PM me if you are interested. 

@SummitVista3310 I put up 3 war items for Daniel Sunday night and they had not been claimed by the time I went to work on Wednesday (roughly 60 hours later) but were gone when I returned 12 hours later...be it 48 or 72 hours later really doesn’t matter unless you’re in dire need of funds...

I am somewhat surprised you are promoting “trading clubs”. Although they take an alternative path and many have a few solid cities in place, they are simply feeder clubs with a larger customer base. Don’t misunderstand I know several individuals involved in these clubs and quite frankly friends with a few...we simply have a different definition of fair play and follow a different compass.

@PinnacleValley Daniel will take them in 48 hours. Seems EA sometimes change it to 24h or 36h in minor updates but should not be longer than 48h. If it takes 72 hours, it must be a bug. 

I call them “temporary trading club”, they are actually just dead clubs in deferent arenas, players use them when they want to shop boosters/attack cards. There might be feeder trading clubs managed by cheaters, but I’m not involved those. You can switch clubs as much as you want to shop in deferent arenas and you can trade with other players which is not ”cheat” at all. 

I understand you can switch from club to club once war is over and return to your home club once you’ve harvested or purchased what you want...that is why I suggested a 7 day moratorium to return to a prior club a couple of years back to eliminate this method of feeding your home club. So if I understand correctly you go to a dead club which means it has to be an open club that is inactive for the sole purpose of trading or buying items with others that are not in your primary war club - seems suspicious as it appears to be circumventing the game. 

@PinnacleValley I understand some players are using those trading clubs for the purpose but this isn't what I'm talking about in this thread... 

I just saw the false information about Daniel's purchase so I thought it's better to post a correct information to avoid the misleading for other players. This thread is about how to get rid of war items when you dont have your home club. It's totally legal to join for a club temporary (either active or inactive) to trade your items if you want to.

The ones I know seem inactive just becasue they stopped playing, there are lots of open clubs that they arent playing anymore. Probably you are talking about those war surplus clubs managed by feeder clubs...? The feeder clubs I've seen are usually closed becasue they only want to trade with their own players. EA could delete those clubs if they are inactive in CoM and war for 6 months or something if EA really wants to deal with cheaters. But switching clubs isn't illegal right now and I go to shopping to other clubs when the war store have cards I want.

@SummitVista3310 No false information was provided...this is what I saw in July and as recently as last weekend - perhaps it’s a bug, perhaps it’s not ...I never have an item in the global market for more than 4 hours except for war items so there may be different parameters based on usage and need to clear the depot - I don’t know, I simply know what I and the members of our club see.

In your reply to my observation you have conveniently excluded the term “dead” which led to my response. You are also the one that brought the issue of temporary trading clubs into this thread...which I have simply identified what the majority of trading clubs are. No one has accused you of anything...but your response is puzzling.

@PinnacleValleyIf it's really taking 72 hours, it's a bug. It doesn't matter if you care about it or not. I'm just providing the correct information, so other players can report the bug instead of keep waiting for 3 days. 

In my first reply, I didnt say it's a problem. I was just trying to introduce the other way to get rid of the war items instead of waiting for Daniel for "3 days". And it's obviously nothing to do with a feeder problem in this case. You started @ing me as you mentioned the feeder problem which has nothing to do with this thread. 

@SummitVista3310  Please check your facts...you are the one that sated “If you want to get rid of your war items right away, I can introduce you a temporary trading club. You can leave right away after you sold your stuff, you won’t be involved for wars and they will pay maximum price. PM me if you are interested.” By definition as I explained a temporary trading club is in most cases simply a feeder club with a larger customer base and you suggesting that is inconsistent with what you have been stating for the last six weeks. Perhaps that’s the issue...regardless, time to move on.

@PinnacleValleyIn my understanding, feeders accounts are made to support your main city(club) by managing multiple accounts(club). If you trade items(or war items) with other random players, it's not feeding... It's just trading. When a player doesn't (or dont want to) belong to any clubs, you have to join some club to trade war items. I mentioned those dead clubs just because it's convenient, so you won't be involved for wars. Or you mean players who dont have thier home club shouldnt be able to trade with other players...? They only should find items at GTHQ and wait for Daniel...? 

Having feeder accounts aren't allowed, but trading with other playing or switching clubs are totally legit. I understand how upset you are about those cheaters or war system, but dont twist everything into that problem.... treating others are wrong just because you don't like something doesn't help you. All those tips I shared are legit, if you don't like it, complain to EA but not to the other players who are playing fair...   

@SummitVista3310 Sadly I’m not twisting anything, but once again you attempt to spin the facts...repeating exactly what someone said without acknowledging that they had just said it is not kosher. As an example: I stated “I understand you can switch from club to club once war is over and return to your home club...” and you stated in your following response  “But switching clubs isn't illegal....” - in context it’s the same thing being stated. 
The simple facts are as you shared feeders are illegal...but so are satellites which this is a perfect example of.

I made this simple observation “I am somewhat surprised you are promoting “trading clubs”. Although they take an alternative path and many have a few solid cities in place, they are simply feeder clubs with a larger customer base.” and you have become extremely defensive...you have been promoting one thing enthusiastically since you’ve been here and this appears to be somewhat inconsistent - I shared a simple fact and you’ve taken exception...no big deal, let’s move on.

By the way, I have received 2 PM’s from long time players that shared they are seeing 72 hours as well and have never seen 24 or 36 hours with any update...but it doesn’t matter, must be a bug.

@PinnacleValley  “I understand you can switch from club to club once war is over and return to your home club...” Ok, so this sentence caused the problem. This can mislead players that using the dead clubs to trade items are something to do with war cheaters behaviors which aren’t. My statement is consistent, “feeders aren’t allowed” “switching clubs is allowed” “EA should limit how often players can switch clubs, legit players activities(booster, card shopping in deferent arena) will be limited too but I’m ok if it slows down cheaters”. If you still think it’s inconsistent, just PM me. We don’t have to discuss your issue in the thread...

You and your friends might want to research the older threads, test by yourself, google it or simply ask EA. It’s 48 hours. If it takes 72h, it’s a bug. 

I don’t mind If you are okay with 72 hours. But if you are using the bug to take an advantage in the game, it’s against the rule. That’s why I recommended to report the bugs, but each players have deferent morals. So I understand and move on. 

@SummitVista3310 Sadly, you do not begin to understand what it means to move on... Are you kidding me? Using a bug to take advantage of the game - how is waiting an additional 24 hours to receive reimbursement of any benefit to anyone? Please. If it’s a bug, it’s a bug...which sorry, I don’t believe just because you say so...regardless it is insignificant because the question was “will Daniel buy those if I put them up for sale?” which was answered correctly and I shared mine and others experience...if it was 48 hours I’m sure they were happy - if it was 72 hours they were still happy.

As once again you try to spin something to your favor...I wasn’t the one that suggested a “trading club” located in a “dead” club which is extremely suspicious in itself...you probably need to consider to quit repeating what I already stated as if I didn’t know... If you take exception to the definition I provided for the trading club that’s fine, but you didn’t. So it’s time to move on...

@Duckups  You’re right, it is what it is...and sadly I doubt anything will change in the foreseeable future.

@PinnacleValley Please go back to #4 and read the conversation carefully...

"Daniel will purchase your war items at the end of 3 days..."

I saw this false information and provided the correct information. I didn't even @ you, I thought you are probably just misunderstanding. Then you started @ing me as you got defensive and offensive(?).

"be it 48 or 72 hours later really doesn’t matter unless you’re in dire need of funds..."
"No false information was provided...this is what I saw in July and as recently as last weekend"
"I don’t know, I simply know what I and the members of our club see"

" I have received 2 PM’s from long time players that shared they are seeing 72 hours as well"

These are your statements after I shared the concrete truth that it's 48 hours and it's a bug if it takes 72 hours. Somehow you didn't want to admit the fact or know the fact but don't want to accept it's a bug...? So it looked suspicious. It's a simple fact you can easily confirm, there's no reason to keep posting the false information over and over...

If you dont want to belive just because I'm the one saying so, just ask EA... so you will know. Sadly there are players who use bugs to take an advantage in the game, which is against the rule. So I always recommend players to report bugs, it helps the game improve and play in a fair environment. I'd be appreciated if those 2 long players report the bug too. 

Using the "dead clubs" to trade or shopping temporarily is legit. I just found inactive club so I can go booster shopping, nothing you suspect about. If you are thinking feeder clubs managed by cheaters for the purpose to feeder their main city, that's not what I suggested. So, I politley beg you to move on. Hope you understand what "move on" means.

Umm, guys? Y'all ain't winning any XP with this. Calm down & take it PM, please? Pretty please? I hate it when you kids fight. 😢

@cricket4103  Don’t be concerned...I’m finished with this conversation.

Haha pretty intense right…it’s just a game!

@Shaanila  You are absolutely correct, it’s only a game. Sadly, this mayor was always going to be right regardless what other folks experienced or how many other folks experienced the same circumstance. Obviously, I can write that off for what it is…but unfortunately this mayor promoted questionable shortcuts in the forum that provided an unfair advantage all the time knowing it was against the rules…and I have a major issue with that. In athletic competitions we had a method to deal with those type of issues…sadly electronically is not the same. Good news is they appear to have moved on from the forum and no longer promote those shortcuts to impressionable new players. Hope you enjoy the game.