Definitely understand Kulas's perspective here.
And to be fair, PVE is where battlefront got its origins. Beating up bots was 90% of what the original battlefront was unless you had buddies to split screen against. And it was a big hit!
I can definitely understand how people would want to get on a hero and go slashing through like it was a game of Dynasty Warriors. While I don't think that's healthy for the PvP part of the game, it is perfectly acceptable for PvE.
I'm not opposed to being able to unlock weapons and attachments in PvE for use in PvP even. I'm not willing to suffer through hours of struggling on a specialist to get the NT-242. But if I could slaughter bots for a few hours to get it, I'd probably consider it.
Yeah I feel the same way their is no skirmish mode for flying vehicles I just don't understand EA. The graphics are good but the Multiplayer sucks that's why people like skirmish modes to play against bots especially flying the Falcon or Lukes X-Wing but you decided not to put it in the game of skirmish forget arcade mode. EA when will you listen to the fans.
So, imagine us being able to do this The Last Jedi event offline against bots and still earn requirements towards the challenge?
Yes, that is what I want. Because it would take me an eternity to get the challenge done online in the multiplayer against people. I played 4 matches of Galactic Conquest, which is about an hour of game time, and got a grand total of 20 kills all together. You see, not everyone is so good at playing against other well skilled players. With that kill count equation this would take me about 10 hours of playing GC to get the 50 kills on each trooper. NOT going to happen.
I was wanting to do this event, but not going to be able to get the 50 kills on each trooper because that would take me forever. Not everyone is so skilled online to be able to finish these challenges. Letting us earn them against bots in an environment we can actually thrive in is needed.
Stop trying to merge online and offline challenges & events. Yes, they dropped the ball by not adding a complete offline mode, and you are totally right that there should be one. But let multiplayer community challenges/events be what they are.
If they add a bigger offline mode, that should come with its own challenges, as did the Arcade and Campaign modes. It would be nowhere near fair play to unlock everything by beating up the dumb AI, then go to multiplayer and try out the new gear on other players. It would also be funny to say that you took part in the community event - by playing alone against bots.
You realise you have 40+ days to complete the 50 kills/class event? Days. Don't tell me that it is so hard to play 10 hours of GA during more than a month, it is the only mode worth playing outside SA anyway. (Edit: but for this challenge, just play Blast, you can complete the whole thing in a day.)
I see what you are "fighting" for here, but don't make ridiculous points, the lack of offline content is a problem that the devs should be concerned about, but not being able to complete really simple challenges is a personal problem, not one caused by the game.
If you "fail to see" how unlocking multiplayer boosts offline - that you will later use against other players - is unfair, then I don't know how else I could rephrase it. But alright... Consider this: there was this whole uproar about the game being pay to win - that is, you unlock everything by paying, then use this stuff to destroy everyone online. Now, making everything unlockable in an offline mode would essentially mean the same, I'd complete every single challenge in a week by destroying some thousand useless bots, buff my favourite class to epic level with a fully upgraded weapon, and destroy you in multiplayer all the same.
But I am really tired of typing this again and again. Your complaint that singleplayer content should have been added to the game is totally valid. But merging challenges and unlockables is just simply a bad idea. Of course you should have access to everything offline, but keep that stuff there.
I will agree with @felker_s once again and say that MERGING the challenges really isn't fair to the online players. The online arena is harder, the rewards should reflect that. I will say that there should be more rewards for the offline content, not to mention MORE offline content (GA anyone?). @KulasDevorn I usually hate online MP content as well. I was irate when I got BattleFront 1 and realized there was no campaign (my fault). I played about two hours and didn't touch it again. Only reason I bough BF2 was for the campaign. I was again irate when I found out you really couldn't advance your character all that much unless you leveled your character with battle points, meaning YOU HAVE TO PLAY MULTIPLAYER! I focused primarily on SA since it's the only way you can play starfighters. After a while, I got better, at least good enough that I didn't feel like cannon fodder. First (and still only) online MP that I have grown to enjoy. Started playing some of the other MP versions and found that you can get ridiculous amounts (comparatively) of battle points from HvV. Only eight players so you have an awesome shot at top 5 (especially with AFK farmers) and all the extra points that come with it. After leveling up a few times in quick fashion, I figured I would give GA a shot, especially since I had more confidence in my "ground game" from playing HvV. Rude awakening, I still sucked. The hero skills do not translate all that well to the trooper grind. So I decided I had to improve my trooper game, best way to do that is through blast. In relatively short order I felt better about my game (still a bit of cannon fodder TBH, but at least fun now). The interesting thing about this route, for me at least, is that all of the TLJ challenges just started being completed because I was focusing on something else but making progress there as well. I do put a little effort in to the daily challenges now but they aren't a grind, they are a reward for doing something I was going to do anyway.
No one can make you like MP but if you view it as a means to an end, it really isn't that bad. Think of it like a poorly designed campaign level where the boss is just WAY too OP so you have to keep playing again and again to learn all the little tricks. Eventually one day it just clicks and that OP boss is suddenly under your boot.
Last week just after Christmas the EA Servers were down for a bit making it impossible to play Starfighter Assault and Galactic Assault since those modes are online modes.
Is this what the developers really want? For the game modes they worked so hard on to become completely unplayable because of server problems?
Anyone that would answer Yes to that needs to go visit a psychologist because no one in their right mind would say Yes to that!
We want to be able to experience all of the cool things the developers at DICE and Criterion did to make these modes great but that will not be good if we have to rely on internet connections to do so.
That is why Starfighter and Galactic Assaults need to be added to Arcade mode with ALL of their maps as soon as possible !!!
I never said that you will destroy anyone, I said that you will be destroyed all the same, and you'll find it even more unfair. Right now I mostly have rare-tier cards, with some epic ones here and there, but if I could gain the same amount of credits in even less time offline, I'd run around 100% epic with all of my troopers.
I'm sorry that you are not good at the game, but multiplayer is about skill, it always have been.
Here's an analogy for you: if you get your arse handed to you in some martial arts competition, or while playing chess, or... well bloody well anything, will you start complaining that it is not fair, the opponent was more skilled? Ugh...
This whole conversation just feels like a stalemate though, so you won't have to bother with my face again, I'm out. I don't even understand why the online-offline challenge merging is so important to you, since - if I understand correctly - you'd play offline anyway, if Dice gave you the chance.
I have all Purple Tier on my Officer, and that is the ONLY class I can earn 10,000+ points or get on the end roster in a game with. I can't do that on any other classes, even with Purple Tier unlocked on them, and NEVER with Hero or Villain...even with Purple Tier unlocked. I set on the Specialist and only get a few kills per game spending most my time dying. I have wasted DAYS and HOURS on the Specialist in order to unlock it's final weapon. It took me weeks to get 200 kills to unlock the final gun, yes that long. So, what you are saying is, had I been able to unlock that stuff offline against bots in much less time, it would somehow effect the entire game? No, it wouldn't. I am not going to do that well no matter how much I unlock on all but the Officer. Period. I certainly am not going to do well AT ALL in the Starfighter modes, I just die continually there.
Martial Arts and a form of entertainment (a video game) are VERY different things. Martial Arts is about discipline and learning. A Video Game is about relaxing, escaping, and fun. You cannot equate the two. I CAN complain about a video game, martial arts is not something you complain about because you want to learn and get better because it is about YOU and your life, not a freakin' video game.
I would play offline if the entire multiplayer experience was there, and it is not. But, if I was still not earning things or unlocking things I wouldn't want to do it much then.
As it is now, with the new update, it added nothing for me. No offline against bots multiplayer, so pointless. The new Jetpack mode is just more competitive garbage. Right now I am done with the game because I frankly do not have fun with it much at all. All I have unlocked and earned was just one long frustrating, cheap, unfair, glitched fiasco spent with half the time dying and waiting for the counter to respawn me. I was literally frustrated within one match every time I liked in this game. Every single time. I tried, but unless I can play and earn things against bots, I will not get any real enjoyment out of this game.
