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VetteC5RX's avatar
6 years ago

Player Level Handicap Needs to be Removed

Product: Star Wars Battlefront II
Platform:Microsoft XBOX One
What is your issue related to? General
Summarize your bug Higher level player classes & characters have been severely handicapped to the point the game is nearly unplayable.
What is your gamertag/PSN ID/EA Account name? VetteZ51
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Can you tell us the date (MM/DD/YYYY) that you saw the bug? 1/19/2020
What time did you see the bug? (HH:MM AM/PM) 3:30 PM
In what game mode did the bug occur? Heroes vs. Villains
What is your time zone? EST (IET) - GMT - 5:30
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Remove the handicap you installed as part of TROS update
What happens when the bug occurs? higher level class & hero / villain characters have restricting handicaps impairing good gameplay.
What do you expect to see? That all classes and characters observe the same gameplay mechanics.
Please select your region North America
AMD or Nvidia Model Number N/A

This took a long time but after a lot of specific observations; both random AND setup I’ve found that with TROS update the gameplay mechanics had a significant change ... for the bad. 

long & short the Devs included a MAJOR handicap on infantry “classes” as well as the hero & villain characters within the game. 

Higher level characters are experiencing handicaps such as: lower rate of saber swings per second, lower blaster fire rate / damage, lower accumulation of points per round, higher ability “null zones”, lower ability priority and/or higher cast time, lower rate of dodge / evade, etc, etc. 

these aren’t aspects of player capability they’re game mechanics and they weren’t altered slightly they were altered SIGNIFICANTLY; making the game nearly unplayable for any higher level character a player may choose to use. 

It’s caused a lot of players; players who have been loyal to the game since the beginning to walk away from the game and quit. Rather than adjusting matchmaking the Devs essentially have new players to the game an epic buff at the expense of the players who have been with them all along.

This has resulted in a horrible gameplay environment for a lot of players; the veteran players who have been on the game since the start. It’s wrong!

there are threads on these official EA BF2 forums as well as platforms like Reddit where people are observing major differences in the gameplay and aren’t happy about it. 

EA needs to REMOVE this handicap issue before the bulk of their customers drop them and walk away. 

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  • Video examples for anyone who ends up following this thread:

    In this video you can clearly see that Rey is within the AOE of Kylo's "freeze" ability and is NOT blocking. Rey should have been affected by freeze yet the game ignored it. Rey was striking with her saber when freeze was triggered; it's not even as if she was in the process of trying to block. This was 100% ignored. There's no stutter or glitching observed; the mechanic was simply ignored.

    In order to see my opponents player level I activated "frenzy" to try and grab some game points and allowed myself to be killed, rather than flee, so as to be able to see Rey's player level ... As it turns out, she was a level 19 and my Kylo a level 257 ... consistent with what I've been observing.

    https://youtu.be/sLzwwWQyysQ

    Here's another example where Kylo's Pull ability was ignored. This clip was taken on Christmas eve, shortly after TROS update. In the clip you can clearly see that Annakin was within the AOE of Pull and the mechanics clearly ignored the ability. The ability wasn't countered, it was not refunded, NOR was Annakin blocking the ability.

    https://youtu.be/cwvZ7g2XOd8

    These aren't random observances they are consistent mechanics affecting higher level players making the gameplay way past poor!

  • Before I stopped playing there I was seeing almost every game the enemy team was low level players and exactly what you're saying was happening. I actually doubted your theory at first but near the end when I gave this game up nothing else made sense apart from what you've said and I think quite a few picked up on this and created smurf accounts to take advantage of this. Almost every game the enemy team was low level accounts but playing like they've had the game since day one (you can just tell someone who's had a long experience for this game by how they play) and dealing the most insane damage I've ever seen. Most the times my abilities done nothing. Since I've stopped playing I stopped caring about what they did to this shambles of a game (HvV) and moved on. It's obvious they won't reverse what they did because they only want new players in the game so I think you'll most likely did what I did and give up and stop caring about this game also

  • VetteC5RX's avatar
    VetteC5RX
    6 years ago

    @HomerSpinson  Legit I’m playing right now and my level 260 Kylo vs a Level 10 Lando ... Lando had roughly 65 health and my saber strike from Kylo did NOT kill him! The level 10 Lando had a MAJOR damage reduction as Kylos standard saber swing damage from the front is slated to deal over 100 points of damage! 

    Lando should have been killed but the strike left him with something around 10 points of health (judging from the bar that now displays above the character); proving the low level Lando to dodge and evade away and their teammate to save. 

    I made my choice on which enemy to attack as I KNEW my strike would be enough to defeat the opponent and yet the strike didn’t kill him. No lag or bugs were observed and the strike registered, however, it registered a damage value WAY lower than the stated value for Kylo and Lando has no major damage reduction star cars buff; chalking it up to the handicap. 

  • VetteC5RX's avatar
    VetteC5RX
    6 years ago

    @HomerSpinson  Check out this clip.

    in it my level 260 Kylo goes up against a low level Rey. You can clearly see that Rey is highlighted indicating she’s within Kylos AOE and when I use the Freeze ability the game completely IGNORES it nor does it refund me! 

    Rey wasn’t blocking nor was she in the process of blocking; the game simply ignored my properly timed ability and put it into cool down. 

    I allowed myself to be killed rather than flee so I could capture the opponents low level in the clip. This is happening ALL the time to players using higher level characters and classes. 

    https://youtu.be/sLzwwWQyysQ

  • Saw a lot of the same before I stopped playing @VetteC5RX and worse. I was taking regular screenshots because I was in utter disbelief what I was seeing but in the end I gave up. I thought I was going to miss the game when I stopped playing because I'm a big star wars fan but I don't really miss it at all. I just remembered how unplayable it was(heroes v villains) and noway will DICE ever get it right. A lot of things improved and I would say a lot of the times you got good games that was enjoyable but after that ROSY update almost every game was completely unbalanced and super buggy. Not enjoyable at all

  • Hi,

    @VetteC5RX 

    Once again, thanks for bringing this to the attention of all gamer's.

    I've been playing the "Age of Resistance," but as well as playing the game, I'm also testing the game and checking the levels of players when defeated. I can see that around 90% of defeats are by low level players.

    I've also noticed ability's being ignored, a massive reduction in points being gained - especially for heroes and villains, slow player speeds compared with other players and much more... 

    There was a player who was 4th on the opposite teams leader board. He/she defeated me about 3 times and each time he/she was a different character. His/her character level ranged from 0-1. Either the handicap is so bad that it allows new players to reach high on the leader board, or that player has manipulated his/her account to start fresh, when in reality, this player is actually experienced. 

    I'm witnessing this frequently within the game, and the mechanics of the game have become, to a point, unplayable.

    I've played a lot of games over the last few days and the majority of the games were one sided to the apposing teams. The matchmaking balancing is still a major problem, but I've also noticed that there seems to be an improper balancing between the light and the dark side.

    This needs to be changed for a fairer game for all to enjoy.

    Please continue with your observations and testings...

    All the best  

  • K4-Rox2's avatar
    K4-Rox2
    6 years ago

    I got no hero below level 40 for testing, except the new ones.

    But I had some crazy fights with low level players in HvV.

    And in Starfighter Assault it is notable, I get more often killed by a low level player then before this update. And often it is so fast that there was no time to react.

    The silence from EA/Dice is not good for them and all of us.

    So please EA: Give an answer!


  • The silence from EA/Dice is not good for them and all of us.

    So please EA: Give an answer!


    Anyone @EA @mods @admin ?

  • EA_Atic's avatar
    EA_Atic
    Icon for DICE Team rankDICE Team
    6 years ago

    Hello there!

    Thanks for all the conversations regarding the topic.

    I can confirm that there is no handicap system in Star Wars: Battlefront 2 or any system that give an advantage over other players.

    With that said, I will be closing off this topic as there is no point going down the rabbit hole.

    /Atic  

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