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Just an additional info: From the last 5 crates I opened in the last 2 days, I got 4 rare cards. Maybe I'm too lucky...
- 8 years ago
You are very lucky, but it won't last. The only reason to hide what youre buying inside a box until you pay for it is because on average it is not worth the money you are paying for it. If it was worth it they would just show you what you are getting up front as it makes no difference. And if the odds meant you got greater value for money then they would show you what you are getting up front and charge you less. Statistically no one is gonna get their moneys worth, we are all gona get ripped off big time. The fact that occasionally someone gets a good box is never enough to counter the number of bad boxes they get, but it does keep them hoping and risking incase the next box just happens to be a good one. My suggestion as with any gambling is quit whilst your ahead.
- Anonymous8 years ago
@chinnyreckon wrote:You are very lucky, but it won't last. The only reason to hide what youre buying inside a box until you pay for it is because on average it is not worth the money you are paying for it. If it was worth it they would just show you what you are getting up front as it makes no difference. And if the odds meant you got greater value for money then they would show you what you are getting up front and charge you less. Statistically no one is gonna get their moneys worth, we are all gona get ripped off big time. The fact that occasionally someone gets a good box is never enough to counter the number of bad boxes they get, but it does keep them hoping and risking incase the next box just happens to be a good one. My suggestion as with any gambling is quit whilst your ahead.
What???
Buying crates is the ONLY way to level up your characters once you've completed the handful of milestones that give you crafting parts. So how you could possibly claim that "you aren't getting your money's worth" is absurd. Start looking at the crates as "buying crafting parts" and you "get some extra stuff along with the crafting parts" and you'll no longer be disappointed when you buy crates. Because that's what buying crates is. It's buying crafting parts so that you can level up the stuff you want to level. It also just happens to come with some random other stuff as well. It's not gambling at all. What else are you going to spend your credits on once you have the heroes? It's not like credits are legal tenure outside of the game...
Buying crystals isn't gambling either. It's buying A LOT of crafting parts. And I mean A LOT. I you spend $90 on crystals you will get about 3000 crafting parts GUARANTEED. Not gambling at all. And if you spend another $90 you'll get even more crafting parts because of all the duplicates giving you credit return allowing you to buy even more crafting parts. GUARANTEED
- 8 years ago
I never said buying crystals was gambling and I dont think it is, so please dont misquote me. I said buying loot boxes is gambling because you dont know what you are getting until you have already paid. In addition the probabilities which determine the chances of each type of item turning up in a loot box can be changed at anytime by EA. If you claim that you can keep an eye on this because from the very small sample of loot boxes you have opened you can tell the shape of the probability distribution for what may to date be servaral hundred thousand of opened loot boxes then you are gravely mistaken. This is a common misunderstanding that any mathematics professor will correct if you attend Statistics 101. You can not, and to get a very rough idea of the shape of the distribution (i.e. the odds of each type of item turning up in a loot crate) you must know what the contents were for a vast amount of all opened loot crates to date, in particular over 50%. If we the customer are in the dark about this and if/when they change the odds to effectively make us spend more cash then we are in a very weak and position and are prone to manipulation.
The first sentence in wikipedias definition of gambling says:
Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning money or material goods.
We are expected to use money or something of value to get loot boxes which have an uncertain outcome regarding material goods. How would you not describe this as gambling???? Please dont say you know you are getting X in a loot crate so just view all the other bits as a gift because as explained above you do not know nor will you know if/when they change the odds in the future that you will get X. And if you say you are 'buying' random goods and not 'wagering' money to 'win' random goods then you are just playing with words/ The 'sense' meaning of the behaviour is exactly the same.
EA try to use the excuse that you are not obliged to spend money on loot boxes so it is not gambling. They are wrong, it is still gambling but you are not being forced to gamble. However, if they make progression such a grind that you are compelled to buy loot crates then you are being coerced into gambling. Its a bit like saying 'do what ever you want but if what you do is not what I want you to do then ill shoot you in the leg'.
To be frank (and I hope not rude) I am under the impression you are making excuses for EA regarding loot boxes because you are being rather nieve.
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