Why is the coop vs AI so unbalanced?
After spending quite a few hours in the coop mode, it appears to me that the AI is heavily boosted. -Their heroes are better than any we can get -They pop in huge number very quickly, to the point ...
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@Guanfei I'm on the winning team the majority of time playing Coop. You just need to be a good group of players, get a good position, and work that yellow manual cooldown on your weapon and you can get 50-100 eliminations every match as an infantry class alone. I know because I do it. It's great fun once you get the hang of it, and on Double and Triple XP days you can rank up like gangbusters
@grrr33nflash Sorry but that's bull.
I'll take the example of my last game, on Naboo. We can hold one point but the other ones are stormed literally in seconds. In less than 10 seconds, you have more than 20 enemies right on the defense point.
Best being the last stand in the palace, where you have a whole army literally appearing at the exact second the round starts, with one, sometimes 2, heroes leading them.
I'm not even exaggerating. The round starts, and boom, here's the whole CIS army storming through every gate, with Dokuu and Maul at their head. It doesn't take them more that a dozen of seconds to empty the place and then you can't take it back.
And it's like that all the time.
I'll take the example of my last game, on Naboo. We can hold one point but the other ones are stormed literally in seconds. In less than 10 seconds, you have more than 20 enemies right on the defense point.
Best being the last stand in the palace, where you have a whole army literally appearing at the exact second the round starts, with one, sometimes 2, heroes leading them.
I'm not even exaggerating. The round starts, and boom, here's the whole CIS army storming through every gate, with Dokuu and Maul at their head. It doesn't take them more that a dozen of seconds to empty the place and then you can't take it back.
And it's like that all the time.
as experienced player this is the trend.....lately no one cant win naboo on Republic side on last post, FYI there is a couple of dice's guys doing adjustings and stuff to the game server side
The ONLY two levels that are difficult to win on in Co-Op are the last phase of Geonosis as the Galactic Republic (due to the ridiculously unrealistic AAT + bad teammates) and the final phase of Kashyyyk as the Galactic Republic (due to moronic teammates who refuse to play the objective).
Just to prove my point, then I'll stop talking about it.
Played 10 matches in a row of Coop this morning and went 8-2, 8 wins, 2 losses.
Played the way I was suggesting:
1. Worked the yellow manual cool down (single best piece of advice in Coop. Doesn't matter what infantry class or weapon you use - it's about HOW you use it)
2. Worked the objective 100%. You can't control other players, but you control you. I'm usually literally standing in top of the objective waiting for the next AI wave
3. Worked the choke points where I could find them. Doors. Hallways. Yes, some maps like Trippa Hive don't have them. Just work what you can.
Or maybe it was just "luck" with good teammates, eh?
you have to learn to play the game
1. learn to use your yellow manual cool down. I use it every single game and my side wins lots of matches. Not 9 out of 10. But 6 out of 10? that's a decent bet
2. every map has choke points. LEARN THE MAP. it's like that movie 300. Doesn't matter how big the army is if they can't all fit through a doorway at the same time. Master those choke points.
3. The key is to get to the final stage of the round. That's the "master choke point" and when the poop hits the fan. you do need to be on a team with people who can work together and know the rules of the game. Just need to play the game to get to that final stage
Is the AI too much lots of the time? You bet. THAT'S THE GAME.
If you really want to complain about something, complain about playing against 5 rocket troopers at one time in a round of Blast.
- @grrr33nflash More like a team of officers who instantly take every single reinforcement and are like a 700 lvl jet trooper wish I would love blast I wish
- @soapy_catuses Blast never seems to have panned out in Battlefront. My few experiences with it in Battlefront 2 is getting mowed down by a near full team of Wookie Warriors or Death Troopers lol In Battlefront 2015, it was a pistol spam mode...the Battlefront version of the COD SMG. OP DL-44 at first, then DH-17 and others.
- @grrr33nflash Last 2 has a point to some extend but the first one is just a joke 🙂
It doesn't matter how you handle your weapon. You can have a minigun with no overheat if you wish, once you start spinning it to a swarm, you can either get a secondary fire of clone commando perfectly aimbotted at you or a battledroid just one shots you 🙂
Choke points doesn't apply to every map either. Not even with Leia you can spam enough greandes to clear out an entire hallway, but the hallways aren't the point. There are multiple entries they can storm through that you can't hold and then just swarm you from back which you are pretty much dead.
The biggest problem of the coop is your AI team. I'm pretty good at clearing waves and open a path to my team, but it's not being enough. Because you are playing against 20 heavily boosted enemies each time while 5 of your AI team die to 1 regular troop. They are dumb enough to shoot walls but dumber to shoot enemy 1 meter front.
I'm not saying we should have an AI team which every regular troop playing like hero, but the ally AI team needs a significant amount of boost and should stop deploying their shield right in front of you to block your shoot.
It's nearly impossible to kill saber heroes and Bossk on 1 on 1. and it's not just they have higher defense and damage stats compared to you. It's also they are absolutely perfect at blocking more than 90% of your abilities. Whenever I press Q, E or F, they are instantly doing a blocking which is just wasting my long cooldown ability. Infiltrators and Enforcers doing the same thing with dodging roll move. They are far better than any human player I have ever seen in that regard. Even the BB8 is powerful enough to take 700-800 health from me on close combat.
Playing against 5 rocket troopers in Blast surely can be annoying and I understand you. but this doesn't make coop not worth to complain.
I'm sure no EA staff will ever read these nor to care or bother to do a balance on coop or anything. "THAT'S THE EA". They don't really care their playerbase or their thoughts since it's not really a game company but purely money focused and driven company. They don't make games to entertain people, they make it to earn money. Same as how Elon Musk does with Starlink.
Anyways, I came here to drop my thoughts as well but saw this topic and the creator of the topic pretty much adressed everyhing I wished to express.@MissSnowiieThere's definitely not a "use this weapon and you'll win co-op every time" guarantee. Use the weapons and classes you are best at. For me that's starting with the heavy class. I clear out a point while moving in on it, and immediately secure the point. I don't want to even give the AI the chance to swarm and lock down the point.
That said, if my teammates aren't with me? Then I'll get overrun in the next AI wave lol!!! You need teammates willing to secure the points with you no matter what guns you use or what part of the map you are on.
I do agree the friendly AI could be better. I can't count on them to do much more than serve as a distraction so that enemy AI isn't just focused on me.
Speaking of heroes, I will actively avoid 1v1 on them because you are 100% right. They are too good at blocks and such. I either flank them or try to lure them into taking fire from the flanks.
I still find Co-op honestly the best way to play online. It's got variety. I can actually get a hero and have fun. If I lose...on to the next map. And the matches usually don't take long...except for Endor Overtime lol Supremacy matches can drag on forever. I had one last night go for over an hour lol!!!
