You mean the apprentice rank etc.? I don't see how it serves any deeper purpose except indicating how long someone was active on the origin forums and how much experience and knowledge one might have.
@DrunkyMacGreed wrote:
Meh. I've been at "100% Progress" for Guide level for a few weeks now. If I have to wait for somebody from EA to approve my next rank up, then that obviously is never going to happen, because all I do is find and report bugs. Why would they reward someone who continually points out the flaws in their product?
I managed to be the top poster on the Bug Forum for a day or two before @RogueZeroRendar took it back; as far as I'm concerned, that's the greater accomplishment anyway.
Welcome aboard lol. There's an option to check the XP leaderboard for the whole time instead of the last 30 days. Might be worth checking 🥳
Thanks for the recognition!
@EA_Atic
Oh Atic, come on! You know it's a BUG. I already reported it, unless you and Ataashi hadn't talked about it earlier. It seems @DrunkyMacGreed is facing the same issue I do all the time. Whenever I level up I'm already at 90%+ for the next level, but then I hang at 100% for a looooooooooooooooong time. This has been happening for as long as I can tell. But I've been getting many levels anyway, so I don't think they are biased against us bug reporters @DrunkyMacGreed , because well, I'm very harsh sometimes and I managed to get to Expert level not long ago.
@HCarbonic wrote:
@RogueZeroRendarI think what EA_Atic means is that things other than XP are needed to rank up - numbers of accepted solutions would probably be the most obvious one. So then some guy doesn’t spend all their time having conversations instead of actively trying help. I see it as a way to encourage productivity/helping, but it’s good that it doesn’t deter from the everyday conversations we have here as well. You just won’t level up faster with those conversations.
I understand that, however the reply was towards an issue which is real, and it seemed to dismiss the issue as something that's working as intended. But:
- hanging at 100% for quite a long time, even though you're getting many different types of "scores" in this website (XP Gained, Me Toos, Solutions, Topics Read, Number of Times Accessed, Topics Created, XP Granted, Replies Posted, etc.)
- suddenly getting a level to find out you're already past 90% progress to the next level
- to take a while to finally reach 100%
- and then to endure the stalemate at 100% all over again, rinse and repeat
This can only be a BUG. I reported that to EA Ataashi I think mid 2019 and he replied to me saying he would pass forward the issue. Nothing came out of it yet though.
@DrunkyMacGreed it would be interesting to know if when you finally level up you're already with a lot of the progress towards the following level completed. That's what happens to me in every level since before Guide rank if I'm not mistaken. I really don't remember when this started to happen, but it sure was a long time ago and I already got many levels since.
@Kanrei13 wrote:
@RogueZeroRendarWhere's the "Me Too" option for being hung up at 100% for weeks?
I didn't open a proper report, I reported it in a DM to EA Ataashi. I'll check where is the appropriate section of the website to report that later and get you the link when I do it.
DICE Team@RogueZeroRendar @Kanrei13 the 100% part is not a bug and is working as intended has been confirmed with platform owner on this when I/we have had conversations with them on it. Like I said above there are more than just XP that counts for ranks.
What you are describing is 100% working as intended and has been since AHQ open up.
@HCarbonic You are on to something. 😉
/Atic
@EA_AticOnto something as in understanding facts, or on to something in regards to champion status...because please, I can't handle this level up system any longer.Its too addictive 😉 😢
Also, Rogue and everyone else, I believe that the jump from 100% to another percent is not a bug - if you are on 100% waiting for the certain amount of accepted solutions, XP is not being denyied - so the XP gained in that time would be carried over to the next level. This would be the same for you Rogue, you said it yourself you get regular accepted solutions though, but I'd assume you need more solutions to level up on higher levels so therefore it would take longer for you (but probably still faster than us at the rate you go)
There you go
You have a choice
@EA_Atic
And you tell me this is working as intended? Better it be a BUG you still haven't solved then admitting to a terrible design choice honestly. Also you sounded like the way this works is more then obvious, so why Ataashi hadn't fill me in in how obvious it is that our progress always displays a deceiving number? I had said this happened mid 2019, but checking the dates here you can see I've sent him this in early 2019.
A progress display that stays for a looooong time in 100%, and then jumps from 0 to around 90 instantly when you level up can't be working as intended. If this is intended, whoever came up with such a misleading system shouldn't be doing this job.
@HCarbonic There's no such thing as an inferior opinion. Please do bring your opinions. It's because of such opinions that I take notice of new BUGs and Issues all the time. I'm not all knowing when it comes to BUGs and issues, far from it, and if it weren't for people helping me, I wouldn't know so much about the BUGs like I do.
Please always feel free to bring your opinion. It'll always be constructive
1,452 XP what the he-anyway
I don't have a particular problem with this forum, as I've used some that were far worse (i.e. vBulletin software run by people that didn't have the first clue how to install MODs) but I would be curious to know what software this forum uses because it doesn't look like any I've ever used before.
@Wickett42 wrote:1,452 XP what the he-anyway
I don't have a particular problem with this forum, as I've used some that were far worse (i.e. vBulletin software run by people that didn't have the first clue how to install MODs) but I would be curious to know what software this forum uses because it doesn't look like any I've ever used before.
That was in January 2019. Consider 2019 was the year I was most active in BUG reporting, this is what it looks like now:
@ToddyRocket1 wrote:
@HCarbonic
The point is
Points don't make a crumpets difference
Could of said something else🤫
Flattery self achievement or a need to prove themselves better
That's the point and that's it
The Starwars forum that they closed
We all had Points 100 or 10000
Then it shut and it meant nothing
So the xp point is
Who actually cares🤔
I expected this to be a way to get recognition from EA and to show them one is capable and reliable to help fix the issues with a game. I was so wrong. It's not about trying to be the most active, helpful, and be really good at BUG reporting. You must play along, only then they'll review if you have enough participation to then be granted a few miniscule perks that actually don't help in solving BUGs at all. When even an EA Game Changer, who could directly enter in touch with the "guys" that test the game, reports an issue and that issue is not patched for ages, and he himself is not asked anything else in all this time from anyone working on the fix, this shows how they are not willing to share the bugfixing process with anyone.
So I just said a bunch of things that in the end confirm exactly what you said: This XP system means nothing.
@RogueZeroRendar wrote:@HCarbonic There's no such thing as an inferior opinion. Please do bring your opinions. It's because of such opinions that I take notice of new BUGs and Issues all the time. I'm not all knowing when it comes to BUGs and issues, far from it, and if it weren't for people helping me, I wouldn't know so much about the BUGs like I do.
Please always feel free to bring your opinion. It'll always be constructive
“I’m not the Messaih!“
“He is the Messaih!“
I was joking, but you probably new that. Your contributions are outstanding. You’ve probably spend days worth of hours, maybe a week on the game not playing it, but testing cards and different bugs. It’s incredible. Your threads are impressive, you must be very proud.
Also, do you prefer Messaih or Mr Sir the most high honourable venerable RogueZeroRendar the wise?
DICE Team
@EA_Atic wrote:@RogueZeroRendar Telling you this is working as intended. It's far from the perfect system we know that, but currently no plans to change it as we are focus on other more important items at this time.
I could not tell you why Ataashi did not fill you in as that screenshot seems to be missing on what they sent back to you?
Ahh yes, the typical it doesn't work to 100% perfect then they should be fired attitude that we have in today's gaming community's, ignoring the fact on what else they have worked on or the situation at hand. Not okay and a very toxicity mindset./Atic
Now that first paragraph is a much better way to address it. There are many systems that don't work exactly as they should, but they can do the job, and if properly acknowledged I see no reason to berate them. Discovering workaround for BUGs is something I do a lot, if I didn't value systems that are far from perfect, I wouldn't be spending this time here helping the players. However, saying they're fine and 100% working as intended to users who can clearly see they are not working as they should, that's where the problem lies.
About a missing response, that was Ataashi's only response. I sent one message, he replied, then I sent a following message there that you can see in the screenshots, but that message is unanswered to this day (BTW I know Ataashi has left). I also wonder why he couldn't tell me this, because the way you say it, it seems this is something you all know works in this misleading manner, and have known for quite a long time.
About the toxicity:
1st - I didn't say anyone had to be fired, just that whoever came up with this misleading leveling up system (and I'm only taking the misleading % values, not what's exactly needed to actually level up, that's fine) shouldn't work on this. Sure they might have made many things that are good and work, so please, stick to those. Something that doesn't work should be handed to other people if the previous ones couldn't make it work properly.
2nd - Ahh, the typical EA employee forgets he represents a multi billion dollar mega corporation and express himself as a gamer just like us, talking about simple mindset mistakes that create toxicity among the playerbase. When in reality I'm complaining about a bad system that EA can't make right on their QA website for their sold products. Next time I complain about a product I'm entitled to use due to the purchase of a service that isn't a videogame, I want to see if the employee will tell me I shouldn't be toxic suggesting whoever was responsible for this should be replaced because their product is not working as intended.
@Bagginses2 wrote:
@RogueZeroRendarDude chill out it’s just internet points, you seem to be getting a bit aggressive over this. This isn’t meant to offend I just think you’re getting slightly toxic with your replies.
There is plenty of reason to not take EA kindly. I've bought this product on pre-release and the amount of times EA/DICE either lied, or were outright disrecpectful with me and the community is paramount.
I won't engage in this way with any other user here, but with EA moderation it's part of why this website exists in the first place, this is a place to complain about issues. I'll behave when exposing the problems, but when EA tries to hide the problems or pretend they don't exist, this is when I'll berate their actions. I'm sorry @Bagginses2 but this is the company that promoted the unfair DC-15LE exploit in offical promo material, that outright lied to us about the droideka being just environmental clutter or a crashed speeder bike, that made a Celebration Edition which actually restricts the very content it's supposed to award from being used in offline modes.
I understand harsh words are never something to be appreciated, but do you think I'm wrong in expressing distrust in discovering I have been mislead by en employee in the past, I've been told a obviously not working as intended feature is actually 100% working as intended to then learn that actually it's not working as intended, it's not perfect, but it's the best they got at the moment and they won't make it better until more important stuff is dealt with? While being misinterpreted and have been made a reference for the toxicity in the community by a QA employee himself?
Again, I'm really sorry to bring so much hate to this place, that's why I stick to the bug reporting forum because there people expect this kind of stuff. Honestly I see no reason to have a general discussion tab inside a bugs/issues reporting forum. But since EA killed the proper forum for no apparent reason, I'm left with only this place, so I come here once in a while. The fact EA moderation rarely do anything in the bug reporting section besides giving generic answers and censoring player names when it hurts the No Naming and Shaming policy also doesn't help. Would much rather have conversations there with EA staff about BUGs, then unnecessarily debating about minor issues in this forum here.
