The drag and recenter system for Mouse is one of the worst designed systems I've ever seen in a flight game. It should be direct input, not this crappy multi-level drag system where you have to wait for your ship to catch up and click recenter JUST at the right time to hope you're lined up. Target didn't stay in a straight line like a 0 IQ bot? Well good luck lining up your crosshair on a mouse! Between the HOTAS issues and this god-awful mouse input system that feels like it wasn't worked on by a single person who has ever touched a PC in their life, I'm forced to use an Xbox controller, which I absolutely hate... so please.. for the love of everything.. just give us a dang direct input for mouse!!

@DaffanZ Please stop defending bad input methods for the sake of making controller players more competitive. The only thing "overpowered" about direct input is that players are not hindered by a bad input system. The game already has auto aim weapons to help with imprecise aim. This current system makes mouse control the worst input method by far and it is purely because of the hobbled system and not the input method itself.

Yes - please fix the mouse input. This cursor system to lead the targeting reticle is horrible. As far as I can see, it's only the mouse that's being hobbled by this. Even flying with the arrow buttons is smoother and more reliable.

Yes for me this is also the biggest issue with the game. Joystick control works kinda but it tires the hand after a few fights and before I develop some serious carpal tunnel syndroms I'd prefer to play with mouse and keyboard. Coming from Star Conflict I am used to have direct input and if you've ever been in a SC fight you know that it's still no walk in the park to hit a moving target. But at least you can expect where you'll be shooting at after you make an input whereas in Squadrons I'm constantly guessing. This is not much fun ☹️

Bumped. I'm fighting my input device, I'm not playing the game. My average kills per game is like at 1 or 2, and I've got 25 hours of playtime logged. Mostly in multiplayer. Where is the response from the Devs? Can we get some acknowledgement of the problem? I don't own a HOTAS or a controller, I don't play other games that require them, and I definitely don't want to drop at least twice the cost of the game to purchase a peripheral that I'm not going to use on something else.

Elite Dangerous is NOT the exact same. It's close, but Elite Dangerous has a much better deadzone mechanic for mouse control. It doesn't require you to perfectly re-center your mouse whenever you want to fly straight. This one small change would totally fix mouse control for me.

Mouse Aiming/Input is Awful | EA Forums

23 Replies

DaffanZ
5 years ago
This method (V-Joy) has been in gaming for over 25 years. There is a reason they chose this method.
Direct Input is a modern mouse invention and is extremely overpowered, crossplay would be impossible and the game's defensive flying would be impossible as everyone would have Starfighter levels of 99% accuracy.
There is a reason almost no games have this because it's a disaster to balance.
ICraftyI
5 years ago
Elite Dangerous is the same way.

The only thing I think needs to be an option is to allow the mouse to Roll while the A/D keys are Yaw.   This is exactly how ED is and it works pretty well.
But yeah, this game is on par with Elite in terms of flight mechanics and whatnot, which is shocking to me. (I mean this in a good way)    But, just like ED or even Star Citizen, you're probably going to have the best time using an actual flight stick of some kind.
MarsCaturix
5 years ago
@DaffanZ Please stop defending bad input methods for the sake of making controller players more competitive. The only thing "overpowered" about direct input is that players are not hindered by a bad input system. The game already has auto aim weapons to help with imprecise aim. This current system makes mouse control the worst input method by far and it is purely because of the hobbled system and not the input method itself.
jfox225
5 years ago
Yes - please fix the mouse input. This cursor system to lead the targeting reticle is horrible. As far as I can see, it's only the mouse that's being hobbled by this. Even flying with the arrow buttons is smoother and more reliable.
DaffanZ
5 years ago
@MarsCaturix No thanks I don't. want this to be another starfighter clone where everyone has 99% accuracy and going defensive is impossible.

Controllers have the exact same system except they have a physical stick... they have to hold deflection u don't... its a trade off for same outcome.

Just admit you want the A.I assisted chase the cursor mouse mode from SF or War Thunder and you can go 99-0
Cynthesis
New Rookie
5 years ago
Elite Dangerous is NOT the exact same. It's close, but Elite Dangerous has a much better deadzone mechanic for mouse control. It doesn't require you to perfectly re-center your mouse whenever you want to fly straight. This one small change would totally fix mouse control for me.
Kanrei13
5 years ago
Playing with mouse and keyboard, and yes the mouse input needs work.
ChillRacer
5 years ago
Yes for me this is also the biggest issue with the game. Joystick control works kinda but it tires the hand after a few fights and before I develop some serious carpal tunnel syndroms I'd prefer to play with mouse and keyboard. Coming from Star Conflict I am used to have direct input and if you've ever been in a SC fight you know that it's still no walk in the park to hit a moving target. But at least you can expect where you'll be shooting at after you make an input whereas in Squadrons I'm constantly guessing. This is not much fun ☹️
quenaelin
5 years ago
@ChillRacer That is only reason why I use only mouse and keyboard, I have completely abandoned my HOTAS controller, mouse and keyboard is more fun and less pain. I still haven't downloaded this game, I hope this game is good, I am little bit worried after reading these posts.
Rhifox
5 years ago
There should be options to rebind pitch/roll/yaw, and I think the sensitivity/motion range are tuned badly by default (lowering sens to 15% and raising motion range to 100% works for me), and there needs to be more button-conservation options like JS and Controller have, but otherwise, mouse input is fine.
As DaffanZ and Tyraniic say, this is virtual joystick and is the standard for most space flight sims (eg Elite Dangerous). Speaking as someone who prefers KB&M over joystick in space sims, I hate direct input flight games. They're way too arcadey. That really wouldn't be appropriate for a game like Squadrons.