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6 years ago

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Sneaking and stealth kills should have been a thing

So, I just can't help but feel like you should have been able to sneak behind an enemy like storm trooper, silently press your saber hilt against their back, and turn on your saber for an insta-kill...

GuardianD671
6 years ago
its more like jedi would use mind tricks to get past lesser enemies who are alone, and make them forget the jedi was there; jedi simply were not assassins any more than police sneak behind suspects and cut throats instead of arrest them.
sith or darkside users might well do that though; but im not sure how you could make a game solely about the darkside but i do have an idea.
it goes with my own (probably non-canon) idea of why the jedi order HAD to fall; it had gotten too bound up with tradition, rules and so on for one. it was also doing what vader and the emperor did more openly and violently - eliminating force sensitivity from the people of the republic.
what i mean is, the jedi order had people go around finding force sensitive children - and removing them from their families, taking them to jedi temple and training them to be celibate jedi. this would have wiped out force users eventually even if the sith had not forced the balance of the force to swing from the jedi to the darkside so strongly.
so effectively the jedi order had unbalanced the force to the light side, and then the emperor and his apprentices (most notably vader) swung it completely the other way, and tried to do the same thing through murder quicker to prevent challenge to the sith rule. where there needs to be balance (and i missed this message in all the star wars movies for a long time, only getting it now) in the force; too much to the light, and the light users grow complacent, then they can go the way of the ancients in the story, or the way of the jedi order - getting too bound up in tradtion to change when needed, they become more concerned with grandeur and history and pride, having too much influence. and the dark side ALWAYS seeks total control, and cares nothing about the ones it rules openly, being cruel and thoughtless, and also needs rebalancing.
i say all this because i feel the jedi fell into the trap of becoming too proud, and too strong, and it made them weak and unable to respond when the dark shroud fell. so there needs to be, and maybe there actually are or were, a more secretive group of force users who understand that without dark side to test and temper the light, it becomes too weak - and we know there are other ways to use the force like the nightsisters. i imagine a secret order of 'jedi of the balance; who work to maintain that neither dark nor light gets total domination; sometimes this puts them at odds with the new jedi or the old jedi order, but they often just defend themselves until they can withdraw or the light side jedi sense they are not going to attack them and let them go. the dark side users, sith or fallen jedi, will attack anyone not serving them of course. that could be an interesting way to explore a jedi who DOES sneak around - or whatever name such a secret order might have, 'knights of the balance' or 'servants of the force'..
of course playing an inquisitor who manages o heal themself during the story would be another option; maybe one of the inquisitors is set up by a moff who fears them or some other internal imperial politics, and knowing vader will come to kill them the inquisitor has to flee the moffs palace and escape, and reclaim themselves from the dark side. that would be a very interesting journey. and they could use sneak and assassinate while escaping, until the point they reclaim their previous name, and reject the dark side.

GuardianD671

6 years ago

its more like jedi would use mind tricks to get past lesser enemies who are alone, and make them forget the jedi was there; jedi simply were not assassins any more than police sneak behind suspects and cut throats instead of arrest them.

sith or darkside users might well do that though; but im not sure how you could make a game solely about the darkside but i do have an idea.

it goes with my own (probably non-canon) idea of why the jedi order HAD to fall; it had gotten too bound up with tradition, rules and so on for one. it was also doing what vader and the emperor did more openly and violently - eliminating force sensitivity from the people of the republic.

what i mean is, the jedi order had people go around finding force sensitive children - and removing them from their families, taking them to jedi temple and training them to be celibate jedi. this would have wiped out force users eventually even if the sith had not forced the balance of the force to swing from the jedi to the darkside so strongly.

so effectively the jedi order had unbalanced the force to the light side, and then the emperor and his apprentices (most notably vader) swung it completely the other way, and tried to do the same thing through murder quicker to prevent challenge to the sith rule. where there needs to be balance (and i missed this message in all the star wars movies for a long time, only getting it now) in the force; too much to the light, and the light users grow complacent, then they can go the way of the ancients in the story, or the way of the jedi order - getting too bound up in tradtion to change when needed, they become more concerned with grandeur and history and pride, having too much influence. and the dark side ALWAYS seeks total control, and cares nothing about the ones it rules openly, being cruel and thoughtless, and also needs rebalancing.

i say all this because i feel the jedi fell into the trap of becoming too proud, and too strong, and it made them weak and unable to respond when the dark shroud fell. so there needs to be, and maybe there actually are or were, a more secretive group of force users who understand that without dark side to test and temper the light, it becomes too weak - and we know there are other ways to use the force like the nightsisters. i imagine a secret order of 'jedi of the balance; who work to maintain that neither dark nor light gets total domination; sometimes this puts them at odds with the new jedi or the old jedi order, but they often just defend themselves until they can withdraw or the light side jedi sense they are not going to attack them and let them go. the dark side users, sith or fallen jedi, will attack anyone not serving them of course. that could be an interesting way to explore a jedi who DOES sneak around - or whatever name such a secret order might have, 'knights of the balance' or 'servants of the force'..

of course playing an inquisitor who manages o heal themself during the story would be another option; maybe one of the inquisitors is set up by a moff who fears them or some other internal imperial politics, and knowing vader will come to kill them the inquisitor has to flee the moffs palace and escape, and reclaim themselves from the dark side. that would be a very interesting journey. and they could use sneak and assassinate while escaping, until the point they reclaim their previous name, and reject the dark side.