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No one in this entire franchise is a human from Earth, so their in-world identities are completely irrelevant - Ahsoka being orange, Thrawn being blue, etc is not diversity. Paint is not diversity. There are no black, white, brown, yellow, pink or red humans here, because there are no humans. There are no Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus or any other religious culture. There are no Americans, Japanese or French and their accents are present only for the audience, to suggest species variety.
The only thing that matters from a diversity point of view are the crews' identities, and that solely reflects the Earth society at the time and place of production. Hollywood in the 70's was not culturally or ethnically diverse or feminist. White guys galore. Moving away from that is definitely a good thing (IMO).
Including a diverse crew is not what has "ruined" the franchise. Having idiots in charge of management, writing and direction has. Having a racist audience that won't accept non-white heroes is probably a major factor as well. The actor is definitely not to blame. I would have loved to see Finn become a Jedi, not because he is black - but because the path from stormtrooper to Jedi would have been cool. But the entire sequel trilogy is just a poor excuse of a rehash, so he became Lando 2.0. Reva, Aniseya and Osha could also have been cool, with better character development. None of these character ideas were bad in my opinion - someone just ruined them. Even Rose, with a lot of rework, could have been... decent?
We can't have a diverse GL until we have that particular flavor of diversity as a main character in the movies and TV shows. And we can't have that until we have a diverse and accepting society producing and consuming these movies. We are not there. Yet. So DEI is needed, but it needs to be done right - not shoe horned in by some crazy white Karens.
Gabe9876543210 wrote:Having a racist audience that won't accept non-white heroes is probably a major factor as well.
WHAT!?! So the entire Star Wars audience is racist and only accepts white heroes? This type of rhetoric is completely unacceptable.
Gabe9876543210 wrote:So DEI is needed, but it needs to be done right - not shoe horned in by some crazy white Karens.
So I guess crazy Karens (if that wasn't inappropriate enough) are only white. Please be quiet and stop being such a discriminating bigot. The only thing you care about is creating divisiveness and seeing the bad in people. I feel sorry for you. You are no Luke Skywalker, you do not see the good in people at all, just hate.
- Gabe987654321010 months agoNew Ace
Dude, are you living in the world today? There are enough racists to elect them into majority in at least one major consumer country. If you don't want non-whites to exist in the world other than as servants, you probably don't want to see them as heroes in your favorite franchises. That's not a far stretch.
If I say "white Karens", do you think I only think there are white Karens? They come in all colors and genders. Adding crazy on the other hand may have been redundant and perhaps confusing. You seem upset about the word - Apologies if your name is Karen, but I think we are intelligent enough for homographs, but let's say I just wrote "crazy, entitled, white women" instead.
I am against DEI for wokeness, i.e. Kennedy, Headland and the likes. They, and their ineptitude, are likely to be the source for the downfall of the franchise. They stand for bad DEI - Inclusion for the sake of inclusion where it brings down quality of the product. The force is neither female nor black (it sure can be though).
I am for DEI when it combats generational wealth and the consequences of colonialism and sexism. I.e., giving more talented women and/or non-whites a chance to work with the supposedly talented white men, when possible. That is good DEI.
Personally, I think the whole sequel trilogy should just disappear. Surprised?
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