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"ZAP;c-2052080" wrote:"SithVicious;c-2052076" wrote:"ZAP;c-2051987" wrote:"thecarterologist958;c-2051986" wrote:"ZAP;c-2051958" wrote:
Oh cool, I get to out and own 3 of you now.
I have provided data and an explanation of why I think that data is relevant.
You, 3 stooges have provided exactly nothing, knuck knuck, woohoo woohoo, pow!
Look guys/gals, whatever, you’ve provided zero data or even an explanation of why you think HT is not OP. You could at least try and submit something?"TVF;c-2051778" wrote:
You are arguing meta, not OP"TVF;c-2051833" wrote:
you are still talking meta and not OP."TVF;c-2051881" wrote:
There is data that HT is meta.
There is no data showing HT is OP."CCyrilS;c-2051937" wrote:
You've still provided 0 data, other than your opinion, that HT is OP."ZAP;c-2051916" wrote:
JKR is not considered OP anymore, especially when looking at data of top arena teams. He was OP at time of release, but his OPness has waned as other chars and teams are released.
Or in other words, counters developed."ZAP;c-2051916" wrote:
DR is not considered OP anymore, but malak still kind of is as evidenced by data of top arena teams.
DR without Malak has never been OP, so it has only ever been Malak and isn't now. The rest wasn't particularly relevant, it was just you saying you felt HT was also OP because it was more plug and play. If you want to provide literally any validity, answer the points made and give a reason why meta is the same as OP to you.
I felt I already answered that.
Meta has only and always only lasted 6 months tops with specific teams around said “OP” character.
HT has lasted 18 months surrounded by multiple meta teams as a plug and play character.
Serious question, has anyone disputing this provided anything, even an explanation as to why they think HT is not OP?
I’m genuinely curious what you think. What data could be presented that would prove meta other than the data you presented yourself?
Those charts show HT is widely used, which falls under the meta category. IMO, just being versatile doesn’t necessarily make a toon OP. Also, keep in mind, the pool of available ships is much smaller than the pool of characters. That also plays a role in HT’s longevity. In the last 18 months, how many new ships did we get?
In my mind, to prove a toon is OP would require some type of win/loss percentage comparison of teams with and without HT. Do you have those numbers?
Nah, I’m done. HT is not or has never been OP, which means absolutely no char or ship has ever been OP.
You guys win, HT is not OP
Can we at least agree that if HT is not or has never been OP, then no char or ship in the game has ever been OP? I’m willing to concede that point, are you?
I honestly wasn’t trying to pile on, I wasn’t even involved in your discussion until now. I just presented a question I’m genuinely curious about regarding data.
But to answer your question, yes I believe this game has had OP characters.
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