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robertmenn
8 years ago

Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE

Bounty Hunters have a Dark Side tag on them, but truly they are neutral, loyal to credits only.

So I'm thinking they should get a rework and NEUTRAL be added to the game so we could use them on either Light or Dark side battles.

This could also pave the way for characters like Revan, who is both Light and Dark.

Then add Jango. :D

Side note: I want this mainly because I focused extremely hard on dark side characters and most of my light side characters are just meh. I can't beat Light Side 9a NORMAL. Working on my Clones, though. Still, makes sense for them (bounty hunters) to go to either side of the spectrum.


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NRAJ EDIT: Dev Response is here: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1183288#Comment_1183288

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  • superEwokCat's avatar
    superEwokCat
    8 years ago
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    "MaathFaselli_1;c-1183341" wrote:
    "CameronD;c-1183320" wrote:
    Honestly it's just easier to leave all bounty hunters as bad. I get some are neutral,(Hondo)some are good(Embo) and some are outright bad(Boba) but if we split them up then it's harder to make synergies with the same faction on different "sides"


    I agree 100% embo helping kidnap palpatine in the CW was very good of him. And his performance in the box? How good of him! And lets not forget the time he tried to kill anakin, padme, and clovis!


    Did you miss the part where he wasn't supposed to kill them, but make it seem like it?
  • BarneyStin_sius's avatar
    BarneyStin_sius
    8 years ago
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    Don't lose too much thought over LS vs DS, the whole thing is very fluid, and greatly influenced by interpretation.

    Is a Bounty Hunter's greed dark? Do the clones and especially droids(except IG88) truly have an alignment, or is it their masters who are light/dark? Can the Jedi truly be considered light, when they were unknowingly serving Palpatine? If Anakin is considered light, how many beings do you have to murder to be dark? Ect, ect.
  • DieInFire4's avatar
    DieInFire4
    8 years ago
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    "Supercat;c-1183345" wrote:
    "MaathFaselli_1;c-1183341" wrote:
    "CameronD;c-1183320" wrote:
    Honestly it's just easier to leave all bounty hunters as bad. I get some are neutral,(Hondo)some are good(Embo) and some are outright bad(Boba) but if we split them up then it's harder to make synergies with the same faction on different "sides"


    I agree 100% embo helping kidnap palpatine in the CW was very good of him. And his performance in the box? How good of him! And lets not forget the time he tried to kill anakin, padme, and clovis!


    Did you miss the part where he wasn't supposed to kill them, but make it seem like it?


    He killed padme' maid

    Sugi is the only "good" bounty hunter

  • Georgemi6's avatar
    Georgemi6
    8 years ago
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    I wasn't really thinking about bounty hunters for a neutral tag... more like jawas or Ugnaughts. Jawas really never do anything to be dark, and definitely don't do anything to be considered light. Same with ugnaughts. And then there's also characters like revan, star killer, kallus, Galen erso (who was literally the most passive, non side picking person in the galaxy), saw garrerra (he was basically a monster who fought against slightly worse monsters), embo (he did noble things like defend villages from pirates but still killed people), characters like nute gunray, poggle, etc. and of course, Han and chewie (c'mon, they were smugglers n'stuff)
  • Oodvan's avatar
    Oodvan
    8 years ago
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    *puts on nerd glasses* if sometime in the future we get a bounty hunter ventress would she be dark or light? She did save poor pluma. And what about all the dirty things cassian andor and many other rebels did?

    Ive said it before and I'm saying it again: They are holograms not the real fictional characters.

    I think its fine the way it is. Imho
  • BarneyStin_sius's avatar
    BarneyStin_sius
    8 years ago
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    "Georgemi6;c-1183453" wrote:
    I wasn't really thinking about bounty hunters for a neutral tag... more like jawas or Ugnaughts. Jawas really never do anything to be dark, and definitely don't do anything to be considered light. Same with ugnaughts. And then there's also characters like revan, star killer, kallus, Galen erso (who was literally the most passive, non side picking person in the galaxy), saw garrerra (he was basically a monster who fought against slightly worse monsters), embo (he did noble things like defend villages from pirates but still killed people), characters like nute gunray, poggle, etc. and of course, Han and chewie (c'mon, they were smugglers n'stuff)


    Revan, Starkiller, and Kallus were all either light or dark, yes they switched sides, but none were both at the same time. If you think they should be both/neutral then Dooku should be as well.

    Saw and Galen would be very cool additions, and especially at the same time, simply because they break the mold. Saw pretty much has to be a Darkside Rebel, Galen a Lightside Empire.
  • Allenb60's avatar
    Allenb60
    8 years ago
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    "Roken_Fett;d-122206" wrote:
    Bounty Hunters have a Dark Side tag on them, but truly they are neutral, loyal to credits only.

    So I'm thinking they should get a rework and NEUTRAL be added to the game so we could use them on either Light or Dark side battles.

    This could also pave the way for characters like Revan, who is both Light and Dark.

    Then add Jango. :D

    Side note: I want this mainly because I focused extremely hard on dark side characters and most of my light side characters are just meh. I can't beat Light Side 9a NORMAL. Working on my Clones, though. Still, makes sense for them (bounty hunters) to go to either side of the spectrum.


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    NRAJ EDIT: Dev Response is here: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1183288#Comment_1183288


    I'd say the light side and dark side requirements for those battles adds to the theme of them but mainly rewards larger rosters, which has been requested, because the only other difference those tags make that I can think of is R2D2's unique ability. I do hope Jango Fett gets added though
  • sneeekypants's avatar
    sneeekypants
    8 years ago
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    The Bounty Hunters in SW are more like assassins, they aren't operating in the name of the law. They catch guys for money so another guy can kill or torture them. Their motivations are money and greed, willing to catch them by any means including killing and torturing others. Pretty sure that's not good, evil, bad, dark.
  • BarneyStin_sius's avatar
    BarneyStin_sius
    8 years ago
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    "Olga;c-1183608" wrote:
    "DedrickRogue;c-1183495" wrote:
    Revan, Starkiller, and Kallus were all either light or dark, yes they switched sides, but none were both at the same time.

    Revan was. Had a huge argument on this forum about that before lol.


    Unless my memory is wrong, haven't played Kotor in over a decade, Revan wasn't. He could access both sides of the force, but he was still only one or the other at any one time.

    Anakin isn't a Jedi and Sith just because he spends 3 seasons in CW running around Force Choking anyone who gets in his way, he's just a really terrible Jedi.
  • el_Steinert_197's avatar
    el_Steinert_197
    8 years ago
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    "Gebuttersnaps;c-1183298" wrote:
    "CG_NotReallyAJedi;c-1183288" wrote:
    First off, the quote is, "For the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil." So taking credits to kill a man isn't evi... um.

    https://blog.eat24.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/eat24_bear_dick_recap_hawkward.jpg


    Secondly, our game doesn't really have the concept of "neutral" when it comes to the Light/Dark. Additionally, I'm of the mindset that Light/Dark affiliation isn't something you simply state and then are. Bounty Hunters, while working for the highest bidder, do things that are morally ambiguous at best, and morally reprehensible at worst.

    PERSONAL OPINION INCOMING: I believe that within the Star Wars universe every known character can be classified as Light or Dark, and that BEING one of these two things doesn't mean that you're "Good" or "Evil". In the same way a person can be fundamentally "Dark" and yet still do "good" things (Asajj helping Ahsoka), someone can be "Light" and be on the path of "evil" (Anakin, duh). I mean, look at Anakin, was he EVER really light side? Sure he's done a lot of good things, and his affection for Ahsoka is truly pure and fatherly. But his actions through-and-through are driven by a fundamental selfishness.

    Sure, he's "Light Side", but that doesn't mean he's a good guy.

    In the same way, Bounty Hunters are Dark Side in that they have willingly chosen a profession that is inherently morally "dark". While some of them can be "decent" individuals, and even "good" in some aspects of their character, they have willingly chosen a "dark" path. Thus, they are unlikely to be flagged as Neutral and will remain Dark Side (unless we get indicators that a character should be flagged otherwise).

    https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlHFRbmaZtBRhXG/giphy.gif


    *cough* revan *cough* *cough*


    Being neither light or dark while somehow being both does not even out as neutral.

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This could also pave the way for characters like Revan, who is both Light and Dark.

Then add Jango. :D

Side note: I want this mainly because I focused extremely hard on dark side characters and most of my light side characters are just meh. I can't beat Light Side 9a NORMAL. Working on my Clones, though. Still, makes sense for them (bounty hunters) to go to either side of the spectrum.


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So I'm thinking they should get a rework and NEUTRAL be added to the game so we could use them on either Light or Dark side battles.

This could also pave the way for characters like Revan, who is both Light and Dark.

Then add Jango. :D

Side note: I want this mainly because I focused extremely hard on dark side characters and most of my light side characters are just meh. I can't beat Light Side 9a NORMAL. Working on my Clones, though. Still, makes sense for them (bounty hunters) to go to either side of the spectrum.


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\"MaathFaselli_1;c-1183341\" wrote:
\"CameronD;c-1183320\" wrote:
Honestly it's just easier to leave all bounty hunters as bad. I get some are neutral,(Hondo)some are good(Embo) and some are outright bad(Boba) but if we split them up then it's harder to make synergies with the same faction on different \"sides\"


I agree 100% embo helping kidnap palpatine in the CW was very good of him. And his performance in the box? How good of him! And lets not forget the time he tried to kill anakin, padme, and clovis!


Did you miss the part where he wasn't supposed to kill them, but make it seem like it?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T00:54:11.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T00:54:11.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087787","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:48009":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:48009","uid":48009,"login":"BarneyStin_sius","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2017-04-13T04:27:21.000+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1721239561000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:48009"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087788":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087788","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087788":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:48009"},"id":"message:4087788","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087788,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087788"},"body":"Don't lose too much thought over LS vs DS, the whole thing is very fluid, and greatly influenced by interpretation.

Is a Bounty Hunter's greed dark? Do the clones and especially droids(except IG88) truly have an alignment, or is it their masters who are light/dark? Can the Jedi truly be considered light, when they were unknowingly serving Palpatine? If Anakin is considered light, how many beings do you have to murder to be dark? Ect, ect.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T02:05:47.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T02:05:47.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087788","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:117787":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:117787","uid":117787,"login":"DieInFire4","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-02-18T13:32:26.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1721239660000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:117787"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087789":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087789","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087789":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:117787"},"id":"message:4087789","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087789,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087789"},"body":"
\"Supercat;c-1183345\" wrote:
\"MaathFaselli_1;c-1183341\" wrote:
\"CameronD;c-1183320\" wrote:
Honestly it's just easier to leave all bounty hunters as bad. I get some are neutral,(Hondo)some are good(Embo) and some are outright bad(Boba) but if we split them up then it's harder to make synergies with the same faction on different \"sides\"


I agree 100% embo helping kidnap palpatine in the CW was very good of him. And his performance in the box? How good of him! And lets not forget the time he tried to kill anakin, padme, and clovis!


Did you miss the part where he wasn't supposed to kill them, but make it seem like it?


He killed padme' maid

Sugi is the only \"good\" bounty hunter

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Jawas really never do anything to be dark, and definitely don't do anything to be considered light. Same with ugnaughts. And then there's also characters like revan, star killer, kallus, Galen erso (who was literally the most passive, non side picking person in the galaxy), saw garrerra (he was basically a monster who fought against slightly worse monsters), embo (he did noble things like defend villages from pirates but still killed people), characters like nute gunray, poggle, etc. and of course, Han and chewie (c'mon, they were smugglers n'stuff)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T02:54:04.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T02:54:04.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087790","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:120087":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:120087","uid":120087,"login":"Oodvan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-12-26T15:58:12.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:120087"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087791":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087791","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087791":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:120087"},"id":"message:4087791","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087791,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087791"},"body":"*puts on nerd glasses* if sometime in the future we get a bounty hunter ventress would she be dark or light? She did save poor pluma. And what about all the dirty things cassian andor and many other rebels did?

Ive said it before and I'm saying it again: They are holograms not the real fictional characters.

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\"Georgemi6;c-1183453\" wrote:
I wasn't really thinking about bounty hunters for a neutral tag... more like jawas or Ugnaughts. Jawas really never do anything to be dark, and definitely don't do anything to be considered light. Same with ugnaughts. And then there's also characters like revan, star killer, kallus, Galen erso (who was literally the most passive, non side picking person in the galaxy), saw garrerra (he was basically a monster who fought against slightly worse monsters), embo (he did noble things like defend villages from pirates but still killed people), characters like nute gunray, poggle, etc. and of course, Han and chewie (c'mon, they were smugglers n'stuff)


Revan, Starkiller, and Kallus were all either light or dark, yes they switched sides, but none were both at the same time. If you think they should be both/neutral then Dooku should be as well.

Saw and Galen would be very cool additions, and especially at the same time, simply because they break the mold. Saw pretty much has to be a Darkside Rebel, Galen a Lightside Empire.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T03:37:24.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T03:37:24.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087792","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:40458":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40458","uid":40458,"login":"Allenb60","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-05-31T06:43:05.000+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1721239641000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:40458"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087793":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087793","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087793":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40458"},"id":"message:4087793","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087793,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087793"},"body":"
\"Roken_Fett;d-122206\" wrote:
Bounty Hunters have a Dark Side tag on them, but truly they are neutral, loyal to credits only.

So I'm thinking they should get a rework and NEUTRAL be added to the game so we could use them on either Light or Dark side battles.

This could also pave the way for characters like Revan, who is both Light and Dark.

Then add Jango. :D

Side note: I want this mainly because I focused extremely hard on dark side characters and most of my light side characters are just meh. I can't beat Light Side 9a NORMAL. Working on my Clones, though. Still, makes sense for them (bounty hunters) to go to either side of the spectrum.


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NRAJ EDIT: Dev Response is here: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1183288#Comment_1183288


I'd say the light side and dark side requirements for those battles adds to the theme of them but mainly rewards larger rosters, which has been requested, because the only other difference those tags make that I can think of is R2D2's unique ability. I do hope Jango Fett gets added though","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T03:57:47.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T03:57:47.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087793","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:50243":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:50243","uid":50243,"login":"sneeekypants","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-09-22T13:35:27.000+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1721239691000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:50243"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087794":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087794","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087794":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:50243"},"id":"message:4087794","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087794,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087794"},"body":"The Bounty Hunters in SW are more like assassins, they aren't operating in the name of the law. They catch guys for money so another guy can kill or torture them. Their motivations are money and greed, willing to catch them by any means including killing and torturing others. Pretty sure that's not good, evil, bad, dark.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T04:16:15.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T04:16:15.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087794","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087795":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087795","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087795":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:48009"},"id":"message:4087795","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087795,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087795"},"body":"
\"Olga;c-1183608\" wrote:
\"DedrickRogue;c-1183495\" wrote:
Revan, Starkiller, and Kallus were all either light or dark, yes they switched sides, but none were both at the same time.

Revan was. Had a huge argument on this forum about that before lol.


Unless my memory is wrong, haven't played Kotor in over a decade, Revan wasn't. He could access both sides of the force, but he was still only one or the other at any one time.

Anakin isn't a Jedi and Sith just because he spends 3 seasons in CW running around Force Choking anyone who gets in his way, he's just a really terrible Jedi.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T07:22:13.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T07:22:13.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087795","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:29803":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:29803","uid":29803,"login":"el_Steinert_197","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2017-06-17T09:39:03.000+01:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1721239509000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:29803"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087796":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4087796","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4087796":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:29803"},"id":"message:4087796","revisionNum":1,"uid":4087796,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4087766"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4087766"},"subject":"Re: Bounty Hunters should be NEUTRAL -- DEV RESPONSE","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4087796"},"body":"
\"Gebuttersnaps;c-1183298\" wrote:
\"CG_NotReallyAJedi;c-1183288\" wrote:
First off, the quote is, \"For the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil.\" So taking credits to kill a man isn't evi... um.

https://blog.eat24.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/eat24_bear_dick_recap_hawkward.jpg


Secondly, our game doesn't really have the concept of \"neutral\" when it comes to the Light/Dark. Additionally, I'm of the mindset that Light/Dark affiliation isn't something you simply state and then are. Bounty Hunters, while working for the highest bidder, do things that are morally ambiguous at best, and morally reprehensible at worst.

PERSONAL OPINION INCOMING: I believe that within the Star Wars universe every known character can be classified as Light or Dark, and that BEING one of these two things doesn't mean that you're \"Good\" or \"Evil\". In the same way a person can be fundamentally \"Dark\" and yet still do \"good\" things (Asajj helping Ahsoka), someone can be \"Light\" and be on the path of \"evil\" (Anakin, duh). I mean, look at Anakin, was he EVER really light side? Sure he's done a lot of good things, and his affection for Ahsoka is truly pure and fatherly. But his actions through-and-through are driven by a fundamental selfishness.

Sure, he's \"Light Side\", but that doesn't mean he's a good guy.

In the same way, Bounty Hunters are Dark Side in that they have willingly chosen a profession that is inherently morally \"dark\". While some of them can be \"decent\" individuals, and even \"good\" in some aspects of their character, they have willingly chosen a \"dark\" path. Thus, they are unlikely to be flagged as Neutral and will remain Dark Side (unless we get indicators that a character should be flagged otherwise).

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlHFRbmaZtBRhXG/giphy.gif


*cough* revan *cough* *cough*


Being neither light or dark while somehow being both does not even out as neutral.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-07-19T07:53:55.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-19T07:53:55.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4087766/message:4087796","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741196492972","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741196492972","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741196492972","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741196492972","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741196492972","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741196492972","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741196492972":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741196492972","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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