can you stop making every aspect of game impossible?

I had gotten tired of complaining about how I couldn't beat anyone... I don't and can't spend money in game, so all I'm doing is just building the teams I want to build even if when I get to the point where I'm seeing only reliced enemies that I don't have a chance to beat, I'm not going to care.
It's a game, so I just try to have fun with it and get a laugh when my ewoks beat out a zetad sith or jedi team (it doesn't happen often, which makes it more fun when it happens).
But I get your point. I understand really... But if the game is becoming less fun for you, its up to you to make it fun. If you know you can't win, just go in with the most ridiculous team imaginable and play.

You don't have to. You don't have to do anything, it's a game.

But people are saying that we have to release LS Geo TB or we'll have nothing to do. So the question isn't whether we "have to" get full stars on TB. It's whether or not we still have something to do, something to work on, some goal to aim for.

Obviously we still have many goals to aim for. Therefore a new TB is not necessary right now. If the new TB didn't slow progress down, having lots of new content instead of only some new content wouldn't be bad at all. But from all appearances they're going to slow down our ability to gain rewards when we have so many things we need to work on.

Why slow us down? Were we really all progressing through DS Geo TB too quickly? If we weren't, why not give us the option of focussing on one goal (like DS Geo TB) until we're ready to switch? Or just wait to release LS Geo TB?

Moreover, I like playing the game. That's why I'm here. I hate the phase4 battles in DS GeoTB where you get crushed in the very first enounter without accomplishing anything. I have a Relic Grievous, and against p4 enemies in the first encounter, he doesn't even do enough damage that the enemies haven't healed it all before his turn comes again.

What kind of difficulty is that, where a Relic toon can't make any progress at all? There's not even a hope that with desperate strategy and outrageous RNG luck I might finish the first encounter.

Of course, I don't have a full SepDroid squad yet. I have 2x g12 + 2x g8 other than my Grievous, I'm not saying this will always be impossible. But those phase 4 encounters are impossible for me now, and I have 4.8M gp.

So the upshot is... I just don't get to play. There's nothing to do in p4. And it looks like it will be the same in LS TB.

We won't get new content to play. We'll get new content to stare at and wish we could play, while in the meantime our rewards are cut.

Honestly, I wouldn't be nearly so put out if they had 6 encounters and you could at least play the first couple. But nope. Nothing to do. Just an impenetrable wall of death. Yet coming soon is LS TB with an even higher wall of requirements guaranteeing even fewer of the SWGOH fanbase will be able to actually play the combat missions. And our reward for not getting to play? Lesser rewards to make sure it takes even longer before we can start playing the game again.

I don't need to master everything. I can move on to the next cool thing without mastering everything. But we have plenty of current goals to shoot for, and releasing unplayable content with lesser rewards won't help anyone.

And again, I didn't start this thread and we don't know for sure what the difficulty will be, but we have every indication that we're not going to be allowed to play most missions. If those indications are correct and even phase1 battles are impossible to win even the first encounter for more than 99/100 SWGOH players, then we'll have a problem.

I wouldn't have started these threads yet because we don't know for sure, but since people are already discussing it, I think it's fair to say what I think (even if I might have to revise it later after more info comes in).

I still don't get why people like to show off so loudly how bad they are at certain game modes.

Complain about a game crash, event duration or whatever, but blaming constant losses on meta teams, hoarding and whaling does not show the flaws of the system, just how badly you tackle every match.

If Revan is still a problem, or you are a player with several relics that still couldn't find a guild to get enough currency for Negotiator/Malevolence, it's not the game design's fault, but yours only.

My main problem with the game is that several key elements in the game are out of my control. They don’t require me to be up to the task, they require my guild to be. The Negociator and the Malevolent are a good example of that. I could farm and grind to get my Falcon, I can’t farm and grind for my guildmates so we get better results in DS geo TB. I could leave for a better guild I expect you to say but I’m a guild leader so leaving is a little more complicated after you invested so much time into your guild.

Another issue is the snowballing crystal economy. Arena top 100 and fleet top 50 people often forget the huge advantage a steady crystal revenue is. Being able to build stun guns and kyros in a matter of days is a huge advantage that snowballs and makes it harder and harder to compete when you’re out of it. Basically it significantly frees you from rng. It’s a tremendous advantage.

@Top_Quark

Your assumption of phase 4 doability is random and mostly relies on your desire to be able to do it then anything. You will see when p3 platoons are filled, it's not immediate death on the first quarter of the match.

You are doing two ridiculous things here.

1st, you're writing stuff that you can't possibly mean to say. Why not think about what you're actually writing before you type out something like

phase 4 doability ... mostly relies on your desire to be able to do it then anything

No amount of desire allows your g10 bounty hunters, with +50 speed mod sets to last 30 seconds in p4. It does not rely "mostly" on desire. It relies "mostly" on having relic'd toons, with other things like mods and strategy playing important roles. As you mentioned, RNG also affects things b/c some squads are better against some enemies and yet you don't know which enemies will be present in which battles until you try them.

Seriously, I want to have a productive discussion, but a conversation isn't going to be productive if you can't think about what you write long enough to stop yourself from saying that completing p4 TB "mostly relies on your desire". You're making yourself look ignorant and silly.

2nd, you're contradicting yourself. At the same time you're making the statement that p4 doability "mostly relies on your desire", you also state that doability "is random". Then you mentioned filling p3 platoons. But of course you don't control whether or not platoons get filled. Even if you donated everything you have, you can't possibly fill all the platoons, not least because multiple copies of the same toons are required. So no matter how hard you farm, no matter how hard you whale, you are crushed unless you're in a guild with a bunch of other people who have Malak. Even then, you're going to get crushed unless you have a good guild structure with officers that make sure that people prioritize filling platoons before doing battles.

So is it "desire"? Is it "random"? Is it whaling/farming? Is it the roster priorities you chose? Is it the gear priorities you chose? Is it your mods? Is it joining a guild with lots of other high GP players? Is it joining a guild with good and competent leadership?

Turns out it's all of these things, and "desire" is the least of these by the time you acquire the rest. The only role for desire is giving you the determination to spend the long time farming and gearing and modding and guild hunting. Once you've actually got those other things, desire plays little role. Before you have those things, desire doesn't help you at all: you're still crushed.

And, of course, I need to remind you that the point of all this was that I was responding to people who said that if we don't have LS Geo then we won't have anything to work on. The point of me writing this is that what they said is not only not true, but to the extent that "impossibility" is relevant at all, it's in how the impossibility saps desire by making the game less fun and cuts into the rewards that we need to build up all the rest.

Therefore, if in reality things turn out to be impossible in the way that we fear that they might be, then LS Geo TB will hurt us on every aspect of what we need, from desire on down.

Dark Side geo tb is the lamest game mode. How is it fun to see your hard geared relics full team getting crushed in 2 shots by simple clones ?
Feeling weak and useless despite months of gearing is not my definition of fun. And I am not speaking of simply discard your toon, not playing it, just to "fill" a board that give bonus, laaaaaaaaaaame.
But I am 100% confident that the new tb will be worse, devs confirmed through the differents releases their amazing capacity to go deeper into whaling and lame.

I don't get the hoarding is bad mentality. If you're not hoarding, then you're either spending it on the same thing a hoarder did but over a period of time or you're spending it on stuff you know isn't as good as the stuff you could be spending it on. If it's the former then it's your choice not to get stuff as quickly, and if it's the latter then it's your choice to in all likelihood not be particularly competitive.

DR gets beaten by a variety of teams and nothing holds on defense anyway, even 7* GAS.
Nego can be beaten by several comps aswell, I'm beating it with rebels on a regular basis and even beat one with a weird Thrawn + Silencer + Emp ships comp (out of desperation in a TW where only 1 enemy ship fleet was left).
If you've already realized the importance of hoarding for a non spender, why not hoard yourself? If YOU decide to not hoard it's not CGs fault that can't get the latest shiny thing.


Just the typical nonsense complaining.

OP, my recommendation is to just quit and buy a switch. You’ll likely save money in the long-run and have more to show for it

"Mirkraag;c-2018290" wrote:
Dark Side geo tb is the lamest game mode. How is it fun to see your hard geared relics full team getting crushed in 2 shots by simple clones ?

You are doing something very wrong.