From game files: +10 TM removalEmpire allies gain 30% Offense and have a 25% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter when they damage an enemy.

I'm of the opinion that Darth Vader should be giving non-Empire his leader Bonus. Similar to his Pre-Obi Wan whooping version. :tongue: From the get-go. Let's (if we're not going to address anything else regarding Vader) make this minor tweak take effect from level 1. Vader is arguably the hardest character to max (many players who started this game day one are just NOW getting Vader to 7*), so his leader ability being exclusive kinda sucks.Proposal:All allies gain 30% Offense and have a 25% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter when they damage an enemy.If that's too OP, maybe the end Offense can be tweaked slightly to maybe 25% Offense and 15% TM reduction at max. Let's #MakeVaderGreatAgain

I've brought this up with Conduit internally, but I wanted to chime in with some of the things I've suggested to see community reaction:Darth VaderInspiring Through Fear (Leader) Omega Upgrade: Empire allies have a 25% chance to apply an unresistable DoT effect when using basic attacks.

For vader to be considered over palpatine lead, his lead has to be competitive. 1 in 4 attacks applying a single dot will unfortunately not give anyone a reason to forego palps. Empire are slow as well which compounds the problem. I would say something like the below would be competitive. This is also in line with equivalent rebel leads like mystery character #10:Everytime an empire ally applies a negative status effect to a target, also remove 15% turn meter. This effect cannot be resisted.The unresistable part should be in otherwise you will double roll for the negative status effect and the TMR.

"Josh_K;722376" wrote:For vader to be considered over palpatine lead, his lead has to be competitive. 1 in 4 attacks applying a single dot will unfortunately not give anyone a reason to forego palps. Empire are slow as well which compounds the problem. I would say something like the below would be competitive. This is also in line with equivalent rebel leads like mystery character #10:Everytime an empire ally applies a negative status effect to a target, also remove 15% turn meter. This effect cannot be resisted.The unresistable part should be in otherwise you will double roll for the negative status effect and the TMR.Proposal:All allies gain 30% offense and every time an Empire ally applies a negative status effect to a target, also remove 15% Turn Meter. This effect cannot be resisted.

"Mist_Passiert;728536" wrote:"Josh_K;722376" wrote:For vader to be considered over palpatine lead, his lead has to be competitive. 1 in 4 attacks applying a single dot will unfortunately not give anyone a reason to forego palps. Empire are slow as well which compounds the problem. I would say something like the below would be competitive. This is also in line with equivalent rebel leads like mystery character #10:Everytime an empire ally applies a negative status effect to a target, also remove 15% turn meter. This effect cannot be resisted.The unresistable part should be in otherwise you will double roll for the negative status effect and the TMR.Proposal:All allies gain 30% offense and every time an Empire ally applies a negative status effect to a target, also remove 15% Turn Meter. This effect cannot be resisted.Motion to make Mist's proposal happen. This is game changing for Empire teams seeing how often they apply debuffs. The current 25% chance to apply a debuff is very weak and would give no reason to turn down Palpatine leading over DV.

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x0797mjs3
8 years ago
Is the tmr supposed to work with EPs passive damage?
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"Josh_K;792535" wrote:
Is the tmr supposed to work with EPs passive damage?

I was curious about that also because if it does then Biggs is broken.
x0797mjs3
8 years ago
Did some testing in raid, it doesn't seem to trigger any TM reductions on adds (passive when they are shocked).
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"CG_Conduit23;793119" wrote:
Haven't verified but looking at the data it should work.

The cheeky interaction with between Palp and Biggs was intended but I forgot to update the text. :#

My point is is EP crackling doom can cause TMR via Vader lead it should also trigger Biggs TM gain on unique. So unless shocked Biggs should gain 100% TM after enemy EP turn. That doesn't currently happen.

Same for sth TM give while taunting and B2 unique.

They all including Vader lead simply state damage either giving or taking.

How can it be considered causing damage on one side but not taking damage on the other?
x0797mjs3
8 years ago
@CG_Conduit23 tfp under vader zeta is removing tm from all enemies with his basic. Not sure how this is happening but definitely a bug.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"Josh_K;838665" wrote:
@CG_Conduit23 tfp under vader zeta is removing tm from all enemies with his basic. Not sure how this is happening but definitely a bug.

Probably because it is Appling this immunity effect and system is treating it like another attack (Asajj dispel, daka second stun, ob mind tricks.) . Probably also explains the random dodge popping up when tfp uses basic.
x0797mjs3
8 years ago
@CG_Conduit23 https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/88518/darth-vader-zeta-bug#latest

This looks pretty bad, considering krennic and DT are coming in hot very soon.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"Josh_K;838665" wrote:
@CG_Conduit23 tfp under vader zeta is removing tm from all enemies with his basic. Not sure how this is happening but definitely a bug.

http://i.imgur.com/1xfSICC.gif
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
@CG_Conduit23 I was thinking this was related to TFP unique/basic looking for debuffs but seems not.

Here is Magma removing DV and TFP TM when he attacks ST. No splash damage.

http://i.imgur.com/UmEzplo.gif
Maraxus2016
8 years ago
"scuba;876943" wrote:
@CG_Conduit23 I was thinking this was related to TFP unique/basic looking for debuffs but seems not.

Here is Magma removing DV and TFP TM when he attacks ST. No splash damage.

http://i.imgur.com/UmEzplo.gif

Dv lead is bugged everywhere... Check vid on Faust thread to see same kind of issue when death trooper attacks a toon in an opponent Vader team via an assist and gets his tm removed

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