Direction of the top end of arena

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"Shaunyvee;c-1062316" wrote:
1 single zeta on Darth maul - RNG nightmare, OP.

0 zeta on Rex triple cleanse - OP

1 zeta on a Finn resistance team, largely useless.

4 zetas on a first order squad - largely useless.

'balance'

4 zeta FO is far from useless. Its about mods & knowing how to order your turns. Same with Resistance.

Useless isn't the correct term, I routinely score 2M-3M on phase 2 of AAT.

Might change my tone a little, it's not that FO are 'useless', it's that zauls single zeta is GROSSLY overpowered.

There is nothing you can do against zaul, particularly if SA is on that team as well.

Full whale style mods won't get you to outspeed a SA under a zaul lead.

Here is how arena goes.

I press 'ATTACK', put my phone down, go grab a coffee/drink or whatever (to give the AI enough time for the entire sith team to have 2x turns each, while wondering if any of my toons avoided palps AOE STUN, or mauls AOE DAZE or dns AOE CD INCREASE.

I come back to find occasionally FOO or FOTP dead. If not they can only use their basics.

Fun? It can be, particularly if FOO doesn't get stunned and can use marching orders on FOTP, who can then hopefully OHKO palp or maul with his gun down special.

For that to work it has to 1. Not be dodged AND 2. Call an assist.

If the OHKO doesn't work it's GG.

If you're not beating Zaul, at least some of the time, with a maxed FO team then you're doing something wrong. Zaul can be challenging but easily beaten by just about any meta out there currently. Zaul strength is not its defense. Its an offense machine. There is no completely unbeatable team anymore. Unlike the old Wiggs meta, that was OP... at least Zaul can be countered

Nah, Zaul with good mods and Zavage or maxed SA is a RNG nightmare for anyone but Rex. That's why everyone goes Rex, nothing else is remotely reliable against the top-end Zauls .

Yeah... Not true. I'm the proof of that since i run a zQGJ team and since i've swapped R2 in i haven't lost on offense against Zauls (yes, with SA, Zavage and SiT) even ONCE. In those cases where i've had to face bad RNG (and i had those) i would still win, even if i won with 2 toons barely alive, but win.

No RNG nightmare for me. And also, there are teams like GK lead with zarris and chaze that can also crush Zauls easily. My point is: there's more than one team that can beat Zauls regardless of RNG.

Obviously if you put in a toon build specifically to counter Mauls evasion that changes.

Very few people have him Arena ready yet that's why they're all using Rex still, you didn't disprove anything I said.

I'm not trying to disprove anything bro, chill. I'm just saying there are other teams that can crush Zauls without depending on RNG, not only Rex lead as you're saying.

Gk leads, R1 teams, ZQGJ teams, DN leads... I might be forgeting some as well... All fully capable of taking Zaul lead without epending on RNG.

Therefore, your statement is not entirely true... Oh, i guess i did disproved you from being correct to being half-correct :wink:

Take it easy bruh!!

You still missed the point, which is that Rex is not a problem unlike what the OP stated.

Also, even the best R1 and ZGJ (pre-R2) teams are very RNG dependent against top end-Zaul teams, especially when that Zaul has both Zavage and Zylo.

Oh, that!! Ok, you're right. And yes, i used to run Aayla instead of R2 before, i could still beat Zaul teams, BUT, yes, i would depend on RNG sometimes...

Yeah I'm with you. I'm just saying Rex is an ideal counter to Zaul being OP but he wasn't a problem.

I run Jedi too. You like R2 instead of Aayla? I've tried R2 in Anakins spot, seemed kind of tough to pull Aayla.

Yeah, i've dropped her, with great pain in my heart though, i know how good she can be. But JKA it's a must imo. As much as i hate to admit, but R2 is better than Aayla. His dmg boost and stealth / burn are trully game changers for Jedi... that's my acc, check it out https://swgoh.gg/u/!on3punch!/