GA Fleet Imbalance

"Waqui;c-1776907" wrote:

"Stokerini;c-1776731" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1776468" wrote:

"Scuttlebutt;c-1776354" wrote:
This thread, I thought the OP made a good point and didn’t want to see you troll him too.

OP made several points. One was on how many points were rewarded for fleet battles in GA. I didn't discuss that. Other points were:

"Stokerini;d-195418" wrote:
If you have a very strong fleet then you are automatically disadvantaged in GA.



Otherwise those of us who have focused on fleets will never win a GA that includes fleets which seems to be the opposite of what was intended for GA fleets.

And yes, you can turn having a very strong fleet to your advantage and win. I don't see how having a very strong fleet is a disadvantage. That's why I gave my suggestion. Take it when it applies to you or don't - but your whole discussion of my suggestion, using yourself as an example when the suggestion clearly didn't apply to you was wgat derailed this whole discussion.

A strong fleet will only help you if you can both win on offense and hold on defense, while clearing all other zones. If you are blocked from the fleet zone then you fail.

If your opponent is able to completely block you from reaching his fleet zone, then it he must have a team for which you have no counter. In that case it's not your strong fleet that causes your loss.

"Stokerini;c-1776731" wrote:

Also because fleet GP is much larger than squad GP by the ratios already mentioned earlier, this block option is easier to achieve
As you may have 4 additional g12 zetaed squads based on my earlier post with someone having a 400k squad GP advantage.

In my alt's current battle (battling for first) the difference is 200k GP (opponent has 200k more character GP and 200K less fleet GP). He also has an advantage on g12 characters (23 vs. 14) and appears to be well focused, leaving most of his unused characters at lvl 1. However, even though he ranks 20 on his fleet shard, I noticed, that my fleet is significantly stronger. I could place a defensive fleet, which I guessed, he could not defeat. I applied my strategy (5 weak defensive character teams, and a strong fleet). I saved all my strong teams for offense and cleared the board. He didn't even attack my defensive fleet. He has nothing that can beat it. I can send you screenshots after the round ends, if you like.

"Stokerini;c-1776731" wrote:

It seems counterintuitive for someone who focuses on fleets to have a better chance winning a squads only GA than a squads/fleets GA.

It's a duel. It depends on your opponent as well as on you. Today, my strong fleet (and my strategy) wins me the battle.

"Stokerini;c-1776731" wrote:

I recommend that EA/CG update GA to never block fleet zones by squads, and increase points from those zone wins to match the GP ratio difference between ships and squads

Sounds fine to me. However, until this happens (if it happens) I will use my fleet to my advantage whenever I can.

Finding a strategy that works in certain situations does not mean that the disadvantage doesn’t exist. I think enough people have presented the mathematical problems with the current system in relation to GP and matchmaking.