GA without counting ship GP

"DaPowerfulJedi;c-1817664" wrote:
Does anyone know how ties work without ship GP being calculated into matchmaking?

I would expect them to work the same way, just using squad GP rather than total GP.

Not counting ship GP is just stupid. I always had the highest ship GP (usually by far) and 90% of my opponent’s were easy. It’s all about having the right teams, the right zetas and knowing how to counter every team. Now I am stuck fighting people with up to 300k less GP than me because some cry babies that are bad complained about that. They will prolly know find a new thing to complain because they will still lose

"Angelloyd;c-1818409" wrote:
Not counting ship GP is just stupid. I always had the highest ship GP (usually by far) and 90% of my opponent’s were easy. It’s all about having the right teams, the right zetas and knowing how to counter every team. Now I am stuck fighting people with up to 300k less GP than me because some cry babies that are bad complained about that. They will prolly know find a new thing to complain because they will still lose

The change helps those who don’t sandbag GP and I’m all for it.

I seriously doubt it. I have 1.5M Character GP & 1.3M Ship GP. The most I’ve lost in GA is one battle (mostly because I unlocked Revan the 2nd time around).

But half the time it’s my 11 G12 vs their 30 G12. And that’s after the ship GP change. I don’t sandbag GP. If someone did and had a robust 2.3M toon GP & 500K ship GP or less they could essentially have 70+ G12 vs my 11 G12.

I like a challenge and don’t sandbag GP but this change “evens the playing field” it was an obvious way to balance GA. Everyone knows it and I’m glad they did it. Honestly anything that penalizes sandbagging is a step in the right direction. (which this doesn’t even do)

"Angelloyd;c-1818409" wrote:
Not counting ship GP is just stupid. I always had the highest ship GP (usually by far) and 90% of my opponent’s were easy. It’s all about having the right teams, the right zetas and knowing how to counter every team. Now I am stuck fighting people with up to 300k less GP than me because some cry babies that are bad complained about that. They will prolly know find a new thing to complain because they will still lose

Just inflate your squad GP and stop "crying like a baby" because you're facing opponents who are too weak in your opinion.

"Angelloyd;c-1818409" wrote:
Not counting ship GP is just stupid. I always had the highest ship GP (usually by far) and 90% of my opponent’s were easy. It’s all about having the right teams, the right zetas and knowing how to counter every team.

Just because you do not like it doesn't make it stupid. Down below 2 million total GP, facing opponents with up to 50% more usable GP in squad-only GAs, things look a little different. In that scenario it takes more than simply knowing the right teams.

"Angelloyd;c-1818409" wrote:
Now I am stuck fighting people with up to 300k less GP than me because some cry babies that are bad complained about that. They will prolly know find a new thing to complain because they will still lose

You are fighting opponents with the same amount of usable GP.

I was one of the most vocal critics of matching on total GP for squad-only. Facing opponents with up to 50% more usable GP over and over it was very clear that the situation was unbalanced.

The fact that I have 4 GA bracket wins, 2 of them squad-only, simply means that I was mis-matched on skill as well as GP. When I faced comparablly skilled opponents (by modding & arena ranks), my chances of victory with such a large GP imbalance were virtually 0. GA is supposed to be a test of skill not who has the most usable GP.

Edit: What you need is not fleet GP adding back in but a skill factor of some kind added to the matchmaker.

"Angelloyd;c-1818409" wrote:
Not counting ship GP is just stupid. I always had the highest ship GP (usually by far) and 90% of my opponent’s were easy. It’s all about having the right teams, the right zetas and knowing how to counter every team. Now I am stuck fighting people with up to 300k less GP than me because some cry babies that are bad complained about that. They will prolly know find a new thing to complain because they will still lose

What an ignorant comment. You believe that a number that has absolutly nothing to do with another shoukd be incorporated in matchups? How in the heck can you possibly justify that incredibly flawed logic? When you compete in tennis, lets say, shoukd we include your golf scores for seeding in a tournament? When college football teams compete for the 4 playoff spots shoukd we include the schools soccer record?

Use some simple math you silly child, ship gp has ZERO to do when ships arent used. So why in the hell would you use it? I coukd care less if you won most or all of your GA, that has absolutly nothing to do with the logic of adding an inconsequential number just FFS, i dont care if the soccer team and football team won, they still do not get counted together for the football record.

"Angelloyd;c-1817324" wrote:
That first part was sarcasm because removing ship GP is stupid. About the second part. I guess that makes sense, but considering I will be in theory fighting a lot of people with a lot of lower GP then me I wanted to know for sure.

It’s already easy to win against people with the same GP than me and a lot less ship GP...now cg just made it trivial

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Lol you guys are saying that ship Gp isn't usable GP, but having more ship gp makes people get zetas faster which makes them have better rosters. So yeah, you guys saying it doesn't matter is just stupid. and if I have a lot more ship GP than my opponent doesn't it mean for you guys that I have inflated GP? Fighting people with up to 300k less GP isn't fair in my opinion, and that's what is happening after this stupid change that cg made.

"Angelloyd;c-1819199" wrote:
Lol you guys are saying that ship Gp isn't usable GP, but having more ship gp makes people get zetas faster which makes them have better rosters. So yeah, you guys saying it doesn't matter is just stupid. and if I have a lot more ship GP than my opponent doesn't it mean for you guys that I have inflated GP? Fighting people with up to 300k less GP isn't fair in my opinion, and that's what is happening after this stupid change that cg made.

I said specifically that ship GP is not usable in a squad-only GA. I made no mention of the rest of the game.

But if you want to talk resources, squad GP gets you zetas, omegas, gear, mods, credits, raid toons, legendary toons and more.

Fighting a 1.2 million GP opponent with 900k GP isn't fair, yet that is what I had to do in the last squad-only GA. In fact I every opponent I have faced in previous squad-only GAs has had at least 100k more squad GP than me.

The total GPs were matched to within a fraction of one percent but the usable GP in squad-only GAs varied by as much as 50%! That's the real problem and the reason they changed squad-only GAs to match on squad GP

Well, people that complained to CG about ship GP counting are the ones that now will find another thing to complain about because they can’t win. The fact that their ship GP was good or no won’t change that.

CG, when can we start simming GA because now only the 5v5 with ships are worth the challenge. Every other GA is just too easy