When you match players based on combined ship and character GP but only let them use characters, you get big mismatches with players heavily invested in fleet. This is such a massive and obvious result, how in the entire world did you all just miss it, or better yet, WHY did you ignore it? Simple fix. Take the variable for the GP and make it just character GP in whatever formula the matchmaking AI uses.

Rookie mistakes with no foresight .Best fix would be to see the person that signs off "ready for gameplay" works fulltime in forum damage control for 6 months to get the feel of the community.

The combination of ship and character gp is obviosly a bad matchmaking mechanism.But i think, what i still prefer, to use charakter gp only is also poor. Because gp dont reflect the real worth of a toon and need a lot rework. Some strong leaders like traya or revan.. are worth 4 times their gp, cause they can easily beat strong teams without such leader. On other hands there are old weak toons nearly worthless because of the overpowered toons. They are overrated in gp actually.Alot of problems, no solution planned/in sight :-(

GP only if what is available to use is 100% irrefutably more fair than combining GP NOBODY can use to the determining value. 100%

An easy fix is to use Character GP by itself when ships isnt involved and then use both when both are to be used in a match up. Yes?

The developers needed an easy way to do matchmaking in grand arena. Galactic power is something the system can quickly check and provides mostly balanced matches. It's not intended to be completely fair, since they clearly encourage spending to gain advantage. Someone with an arena Revan team is going to do exceptionally well regardless of the rest of their power. And there are going to be some players who invest more heavily into characters, some who invest heavily into ships, and some who are more balanced. The matching format is set in GA, and the battle format changes to shake things up. My guess is the real reason most are complaining is because you got matched with someone who outclasses you and who you doubt you can win against. That is likely to happen sometimes unless you're a regular spender who typically stays at the top of your arena rankings. But that's just part of the game. By looking at the teams you face and examining what works and does not work in your attacks and defenses, you'll know what to focus on to improve. And when you get matched with someone you can't beat, you can just shrug and admit that happens from time to time as well.

Grand Arena HUGE Matchmaking mistake

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FeeFyeFoeFum
7 years ago
For anyone actually interested, the Galactic War report podcast (#133 I think) had SG Crumb and another CG person on there, mostly talking about C3P0) but there was a very interesting segment about Grand Arena and GP being used for matchmaking.

He does state that they tried many variations of matchmaking algorithms, weighting this team or toon more, adding this, etc but it only ended up making more unbalanced match ups. It's still something they are working on but most of the 'suggestions' that appear on here or reddit, etc have already been tried, to some degree.

Just some food for thought
emvedebe
7 years ago
"Rath_Tarr;c-1763654" wrote:

Curb-stomping random n00bs does not make one skillful.

No, it's the other way around. If you're skillful, you can curb-stomp random noobs.

I would have no issue with scaling rewards to skill level.

If they did that it would atleast make sense to group players based on skill level.

Pitting players against comparable opponents gives them a chance to win or to learn from a loss. Getting stomped every time just discourages them from playing.

Right, but artificially manipulating the players' win/loss ratio by matching them with either stronger or weaker opponents makes all the effort players put in this game mode trivial. No matter what you do, you'll end up with the same results as the next guy. Unless you'll get better rewards when you're in a higher reward tier due to winning alot ofcourse.
I'm not sure what's preferable though, the current system or being matched based on both roster strenght and player skill resulting in 50/50 winloss ratio across the board with better rewards for higher "skill tiers". It kinda depends on how much better the rewards will get and if they will be scaled correctly so that players can't "game the system".
Personally i prefer to be matched on roster strenght alone and let "skill" determine who wins. An argument could be made that developing a roster that's suitable for GA can be considered a "skill" aswell. I for one mostly win due to my roster, not because i'm such a great GA player. Please note that i'm not only referring to the optimal usefull toons/GP ratio, but also the choice of which toons you geared, which zetas you applied, how good your mods are and how you choose to equip them. Having alot of g12 toons, but relatively low GP due to having very little fluff doesn't necessarily make your roster suitable for GA. It does obviously help and ideally you want both; the right toons/mods and a great g12/GP ratio.
End of the day if you want to reward players for being better it will inevitably lead to other players being discouraged because they're not that great at swgoh, there's no way around that. All the game needs to do in my opinion is provide equal oppertunity. Matchmaking based on GP kinda does that, it's far from ideal though.

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